Hi, Mary Ellen. I got a chance to look at the pacmate at CSUN. I didn't like it. The F and J keys have such light marks that it would be almost impossible to find them. I ended up with garbage on the braille display and the guy showing it to me had no idea why. It is a very large unit, I thought, much larger rom front to back than a bn. I thought the detachable braille display was interesting, but I bought my bn because I wanted braille. Otherwise, I would have bought a laptalk. I don't particularly want to learn a bunch of jfw commands to use the product either. That being said, my only complaint is that Jonathan stated: Just wait until the next CSUN. The braille note will be completely different. I am paraphrasing. I just am bothered that I will probably have to wait for another year before I see anything significant. Unless the packmate is just fixing bugs with their upgrades, where will they be in a year? How many more programs will they have written scripts for which make them accessible? I would feel much happier if we could see something major by tthe summer shows than waiting for next March.
At 4/3/2004, you wrote:

Ok I have been reading with a lot of interest people's comments on the Braille Note vs Pacmate.
Well my thoughts ...
First as has been previously said, there arethings which thepacmate does which the bn doesn't do. These are two entirely different animals the companies have 2 entirely different philosophies. I looked long and extremely hard at pacmate at csun and I still have too many "yes buts" to sink the 2395 bucks into one at the present time. Also, you have to realize these two machines are personal data assistants. Not "note takers" in the sense of a Braille 'n Speak or a Braille Lite, but they are a step below a laptop. Don't you think, we are putting totally unrealistic expectations on these machines? My personal needs are so darned basic that for me, The Braille Note would be really all I need. I do E-mail and word processing period. I manage my check book with quicken on the laptop however I also keep a backup registry on my Braille 'n Speak and if I ever need to know the balance of my bank account, I go to the Bns to get it. Folks, its about choices and I would like to see some improvements to the file manager system and usb connectivity, sure that would be great, but as far as how the bn has worked for me, just let me say to you what I said to Jonathan Mosen at csun. "I don't like my Braille Note, I love my Braille Note." I find it very exciting to always wonder what pdi is going to come up with for that next upgrade. I have had to do a lot of hard thinking about where I am going as far as technology and my rot gut feeling is, I am going to wait and just see what the next year brings. My laptop has the wireless stuff so I can wait but these folks have done a truly beautiful job in giving us the option to choose, and again it is all about choices.
Mary Ellen Earls
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