Hi Ann,

On 4 Apr 2004 at 9:11, Ann Parsons spoke, thus:

> Sabahattin, I find that this is a problem for me as well.  I find that it
> is extremely difficult to read BN users' email with speech if the lines are
> not wrapped.

[Snip]
> Is there something that can be done about this?

VM can run in Emacs?  Amazing!  I guess that's why people like EmacsSpeak 
so much - you can speechify more or less everything.  Kind of like what 
the BrailleNote should be... but we won't go there, not yet.  To answer 
your question, your first port of call is your agent's features.  
Somewhere, the mailer must have a "Wrap long lines" or even "Reformat long 
lines" to the width of the buffer - certainly I am aware that Emacs can do 
the latter using GNU FMT.  If you find no simple keypress to do either of 
these things, then try exporting the message out to a flat ASCII file and 
then using GNU fmt from a shell buffer.  The simple form will be something 
like "fmt myfile>myfile.out" - I'm probably wrong though, so beat me to a 
reading of the manual page ("man fmt").  FMT is a part of coreutils, and 
is 99.9 percent likely already installed on your system.

> I don't use my BN for email. If I did, I'd probably not experience the
> problems because you all are reading your stuff as a continuous line of
> braille.

It's not so much a question of braille or speech, and there's no guarantee 
you would in fact read your email correctly, even with your BrailleNote.  
I am an example of this very point.  There is a really quite high chance, 
though, you'll need to experiment to see for yourself.  If the system that 
delivers your mail, or systems further out which handled your mail, could 
not process long lines then there is a possibility your email will be 
corrupted in some way even before you download it.  This is why I say to 
people to wrap their lines - there's an offchance that even if the user 
uses a modern mailer and can in fact wrap their own text, it may not be as 
sent by the sender, and assuming it as such is plain bad.  The reasons for 
all this are historical, and revolve around terminals and their character 
dimensions and consequently the historical and/or limited behaviour of 
some mail transports.  In any event, the BrailleNotes are not wrapping 
text, leaving open the chance that the email will be corrupted when the 
recipient receives it, as with me - I know how to wrap the mail, but it is 
broken up in places where my system has choaked and reset the carriage.  
Only Microsoft programs have exhibited this default style of message 
format, so you can be grateful to them for building the API and operating 
system in your bN.  Since this list is full of non-wrapping zombies, I 
have been obliged to plead with the author of my mail system to include a 
feature to dynamically handle line lengths - I'm pretty certain he won't 
approve.  He's old school, and too right.

Cheers,
Sabahattin
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    for the TV repairman.

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