Thanks for explaining that. Ok I'll just do what I do on the pc and do a new
message cutting and pasting . No biggy, just glad to know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] still the bug with sending mail


> Hi tina,
>
> On 7 Apr 2004 at 10:04, tina birenbaum spoke, thus:
>
> > Has anyone else noticed this his I you are replying to a message and sy
yes
> > to the sender only that it still shows up on the list?
>
> Warning: some of the text below may induce uncontrollable bouts of
> dizziness and nausea.
>
> >From the technical standpoint, this behaviour is, in fact, the correct
> one.  This list has the Reply-To field set by the Mailman (an excellent
> list manager - good choice, PDI) daemon to the list address, rather than
> omitting the field entirely.  As RFC2822 explains, the sender of a reply
> is normally obliged to check the presence of a Reply-To field, and address
> his/her message to the suggested address.  This is not mandatory, though.
>
> I don't think, judging from the amount of "I agree" and "Me too" messages
> appearing on this list and generally that this is a good philosophy to
> follow, especially with the number of Keymail users here and users of
> mailers which misread the Reply-To field as the address of a sender on
> whose behalf Mailman acts.  Listmasters - you might like to consider
> omitting Reply-To in your messages.  This setting is not, by default,
> configurable per user in Mailman.  You can either give the user choice, or
> set the default yourself.  If you give the user choice, you can get the
> best of both worlds - although I don't suppose many people here much know
> or care about how to manage their subscriptions.  For the record, do it
> online at:
> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
>
> The alternative is to do what many mailers do these days in a desperate
> attempt to get away from the number of warm and cuddly lists which set the
> Reply-To header, which is to allow the user to choose whether the From or
> Reply-To field should be used by default to address a reply.  Since the
> >From field is not corrupted by the list manager, you would address your
> message to the correct recipient if you chose to send to the address in
> the From field.
>
> I believe, out of principle, that adding a Reply-To field is not a good
> thing.  The two most important reasons for this are:
>
> 1.  Sending an accidental message to a private member when really you
> meant the list is easily correctable (or even automatic if the list member
> in question is nice), which cannot be said for the case when you send a
> private message to the list when really you only ment to send it to a
> private member.  The added work of addressing to the list, in this
> respect, is a good preventative measure against serious embarrassments.
>
> 2.  Modifying mail as it passes through a gateway is time-intensive, more
> so than simply rewriting the envelope and jamming it back in the queue.
> Since mailing lists are supposed to distribute whatever mail is given them
> to all of the list's members, it follows that not modifying it is a good
> thing anyway.  Modding headers thus adds a timeload on the list server.
> With large lists, VERP does so even more when the headers have been
> modified, though this is understandably a requirement these days.
>
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
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