Hi, Duxbury always attempts to go by the official rules used in the UK or the US. If you have Duxbury set to UK braille, then it would go by BAUK rules. If it doesn't you could ask someone like George Bell who is in England and he is on the Duxbury users' list.
Incidentally because Duxbury was designed to follow the BANA and BAUK rules, there has never been a way for a person to create his or her own personal translation table. That's why there are no options for creating a personal braille table in the BN. I think Duxbury also tries to go by the braille rules for other non-english-speaking countries, too. Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] converting text file to a braille file : Hi Don, : : On 24 Apr 2004 at 22:55, Don Bishop spoke, thus: : : [...] : > Anyway, I have a text file which I moved from the pc to the bn qt. The : > problem is that when I try reading the file things like the greater-than : > sign > is spelled out in words rather than showing the sign. The same is : > for the left-brace and some other such symbols. The text, as a whole seems : > okay, but sure can't remember how to get those special characters to show : > as symbols rather than words. : : You can't. If you are viewing the document in grade 2, then you cannot : see symbolic representations for these characters, because grade 2 : provides no such symbols. Remember, grade 2 is literary braille; these : symbols are infrequent in such contexts. If you want to view the computer : braille symbol for the symbols in question, though, you can use cursor : routing in all modes (except reading mode) to route the cursor either on : or immediately before or after the expanded words and you will have either : a subimposed character or an expanded computer braille combination of : characters in which the symbol appears in your chosen computer braille : format. : : > I even tried creating a formatted braille file on the pc using Duxbury : > and moving that to the bn, but the characters are still spelled out as : > words. : : Naturally. BrailleNote now uses Duxbury's translator, too. : : > Also, I don't want to change the format of text files, just the braille : > ones. : : You may do so. Make a translation - either on your BrailleNote or your PC : - of the flat file into braille. Now, open and edit your braille file to : your heart's content. Be cautioned, though - the backtranslator will : translate whatever you decide is a suitable symbolic replacement according : to your chosen grade 2 notation, so choose symbols wisely. : : > What is the obvious that I'm missing here? : : It isn't all that obvious, really. I only found out because Window-Eyes' : manual mentioned that the same characters were expanded, and I suddenly : remembered that it, too, uses Duxbury. needless to say, we are not all : unfathomably lost in this difficulty - here in the United Kingdom, the : Braille Association of the United Kingdom (BAUK, http://www.bauk.org.uk/ ) : has allowed mathematics notation to be used in literary contexts, with : some restrictions. We don't have this problem - most symbols are still : available in grade 2. However, Duxbury probably doesn't see it this way, : and since it is from the US, as seems to be everything, we are obliged to : follow league. : : Cheers, : Sabahattin : -- : Thought for the day: : Dictatorship (n): a form of government under which everything : which is not prohibited is compulsory. : : Latest PGP Public key blocks? Send any mail to: : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : : Sabahattin Gucukoglu : Phone: +44 (0)20 7,502-1615 : Mobile: +44 (0)7986 053399 : http://www.sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/ : Email/MSN: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : : : ___ : To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit : http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote :
