Dear Kirstyn,

I think you misunderstood my post.

I wasn't accusing you of showing off.  You completely took my post the wron
way.

I never said you corrected the quizz.  I said you showed how to correctly
write such a quizz so a sighted person could read it.

I don't dispute the idea of having the answers put under the questions.  It
was my impression Lisa wanted to put the answers beside the questions.

Next, my statement about the advantage of a QT keyboard is for people who
may be monitoring the list and are trying to decide which keyboard to use.
I don't expect anyone to rush out and change from a BT keyboard to a QT
keyboard.  But if a person should decide to change to a QT because they
realize it meets their need better, then perhaps my post has helped someone.
Too often, people think about how fast they can type instead of "what kind
of documents do I need to create most of the time--braille or text?"  If
your answer is "text," then a QT keyboard should be considered and if it's
"braille" the BT keyboard should be considered.  If the answer is "both
braille and text", then the comfortableness of the keyboard comes into play.

I have had experience in translating documents and I have discovered that
more errors are caused by back translation from braille to text than from
forward translation, text to braille.

I disagree with you regarding writing answers to a quizz in a separate
document.  When I was in school before the days of PC's and notetakers, I
typed my answers on separate paper.  My teachers and I had no problems with
ambiguity.

I'm sorry you misunderstood the meaning of my post.  I'm trying to be
helpful on this list by making suggestions which would save time and
frustration.  I wasn't trying to be a professor or "lecture."  I'm not
insisting that everyone should do everything the way I do it.  I make
suggestions and people can choose to accept them or not.

Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF^CA.  Army MARS call sign AAT9PX,
California
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirstyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] copy of the quiz which was sent to my
profyesterday


: Terri,
:
:     Sorry, but I think you are barking at the wrong tree and making wrong
assumptions.  I did not post the corrected version of Lisa's quiz to show
that my method works.  If I needed proof for that, the best way to provide
it was to have Lisa check it out herself.  If you have seen her reply, she
has followed the steps and proven to herself that it works.
:     So to clarify, I put the readable version of the text not to show off
that the method works or that I can fix her problem, but to assure her that
the problem was only with the BrailleNote reading her answers as computer
Braille that can be corrected using the "Change grade of block" command, and
nothing is wrong with her professor's computer.  I do not know where you got
the wrong idea about my intentions.  But I have been lurking on this list
for quite some time now and have seen your posts, and know that you have
this type of attitude so I am not surprised.  Now It's my turn to comment on
your post, and if you can be a sport, I expect you would not mind that.
:     I read your post where you hailed the advantage of using a BrailleNote
QT to avoid the problems Lisa has had.  I have seen you done this before,
and I wonder what you are trying to say.  It definitely does not help Lisa
with her problem to tell her that using a QT is better.  Obviously, she has
a BrailleNote BT and cannot switch to a QT out of a whim.
:     Aside from the money she will spend for the keyboard switch, you must
take into consideration her typing skills.  I think I saw a post from Lisa
about storing books where she wrote that she does not have a computer for
storage.  I may be wrong but it's possible that Lisa types better on a
Perkins-style Braille keyboard than on a qwerty-style keyboard.  I will not
be surprised if this is true because she got a BT anyway.
:     Like I said, I only used the "Change grade of block" command to fix
the gibberish text in Lisa's email to her professor.  I did not add
anything.  The extra numbers you saw were part of her quiz, put in by her
professor maybe.  Also, I did not delete anything except for the string of
underscores in the text because I found them unnecessary and annoying with
speech or the display.  The incomplete sentence was Lisa's sentence.  I am
not her professor, and neither are you, so let's leave it to the prof if she
thinks an incomplete sentence should be marked wrong.
:     I disagree that writing the answers next to the question, without
putting a hard return to separate them, is the right way to type in your
answers with the questions.  Some questions in tests consist of sentences
that end with a period instead of a question mark.  Not all questions start
with who, what, when, where, why and how.  Others give instructions like
"describe" or "give", or end with a blank for you to fill in with your
answer.
:     For this reason, it looks better for a sighted person to see the
question and the answer separated into different lines.  The professor will
not have to read the question she herself wrote, but will only check the
start of the next line to see where Lisa's answer started.  If the answer is
typed right after the question, chances are it will be in the middle of the
text so the prof has to read through her question first.
:     Also, I disagree that putting in only your answers is a better idea
than typing it in after the question.  Let's say the question was incomplete
or there was a typographical error that caused ambiguity.  With the question
included with her answer, if the professor finds Lisa's answer to be totally
missing the point of the question, she can check if the question was typed
correctly or not.  If the problem is with the question itself, then Lisa's
answer will not be marked wrong and will be reconsidered by the professor.
:     Besides Terri, from the very beginning, Lisa wanted to type in her
answers with the questions emailed to her.  Lisa is asking this list for
help on how to do that, not a lecture on why or why not her answers should
be written with the questions.  For all we know, her prof may have asked her
to put in her answers after the questions.  If you disagree with that, go
complain to Lisa or her professor.
:     What this all boils down to is that I think you need to focus on what
the problem is all about, and make suggestions on solving that problem
specifically, but take into consideration what the user has and wants to do.
Sorry to be frank with you.
:
: Cheers,
: Kirstyn
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