Hi Laura; Thanks for your nice message. In this case, the only time I will need to use the dot 4 is when I show the two numbers to get a running total for a grand total. The rest of the time, I am listing the orders under each person's name. Your e-mail, sure will be helpful to save. Thanks. Terry Powers
-----Original Message----- From: Laura Wolk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:14 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: [Braillenote] clearing up this whole equation business Hello Terry, Rhonda.... et al. (lol) OK, this is an attempt to clear up and summarize all that has been said in this thread thus far. Terry: what needs to be understood here is that different methods of putting data into a file must be used depending on what type of file you are using. It seems to me that you thought you were working in either a .txt, .kwt, .rtf, or .doc file. In all of these files, computer braille must be used. You have no option. Either that, or perhaps you thought that you had placed the code for entering in computer braille by hitting backspace with j (control with g, then c) from within an otherwise grade 2 file. Terry, if grade two is the current setting for information imput, the bn will realistically not translate the symbols correctly. For instance, in a grade 2 file, the BN will translate the full-cell equals sign as the word "for", because in a grade 2 file, this is, of course, what the word means. My suggestion is that for this particular file, since the majority of it seems to be equations and numbers and adding totals, you create a grade 1 file for it all. Because, as Rhonda explained, the dot 4 before a symbol does indeed cause the BN to translate it as a grade 1 character. But in this case, you will be using numerous dot fours to make the BN not translate the next character. You will be forced to place a dot four before every plus sign and every equals sign. Since this will just eat up space and plus probably make it less readable to yourself, you should just make a brand new text file and imput all your sales info in grade one. It is just my opinion that this will cut down on a bit of your headache. But I hope I have made it clearer as to how the BN works in different situations. As for Rhonda's question about the equals sign, it is indeed still written as dots 4,6 followed immediately by dots 1,3 in Nemeth Braille. But, as pointed out by Terri Pannet, this is not the case on the BN, because the BN is not Nemeth compatible. If you were to write such a symbol in a computer braille file, it should only be expected that it would appear, when both spoken and printed, as a period followed by the letter k. I think what this confusion stems from is us confusing what the BN can and can't do and what settings it is currently set to do. But then again, I believe I've just confused myself more than anyone else.... All I can say is I hope this message was of some help. To someone. Anyone. Maybe just myself? Lol. HTH, Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/NCI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:24 AM Subject: RE: [Braillenote] manual > Hi Ronda; > These prices are simple enough that I should be able to write > grand total $53.50 plus $19.00 = $72.50 > done with lower d ing sign and 4,6 1,3 > > why won't it read it like a plus and a equal > It did not tell me to use computer mode > > Terry > ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
