Hi Sherry:

For your first question, there are two approaches you may use.  You may either 
switch braille input grade altogether, or simply place a dot 4 before the 
period and At sign so they will not be translated.

Let's say we were going to use my email address as an example:
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If you wanted to switch braille input grades, you would hit backspace with j 
(control with g, c), switching the input grade to computer Braille, hit the 
enter key so that your email address will appear on a separate line, type the 
email address, then press backspace with b (control with g, b), to switch back 
to grade 2.  Note that you must first switch the braille grades, hit the enter 
key to move to the next line, type the address, switch back to grade 2, and 
THEN, hit the enter key again to continue writing your message.  You must 
switch back to grade 2 before placing the line marker or, for some reason, the 
new line marker will be stripped.  (Someone, please correct me if this bug has 
been fixed, because I am in school when writing this so cannot check at this 
time)

Sherry, for your second question, unfortunately many sites just aren't 
accessible to the bn, and perhaps audible site is one of them.  You seem to be 
following the log in procedure correctly.  Hope this isn't to inconvenient for 
you, and I hope even more that this situation is changed with the upgrade.

HTH, Laura

>------ original message ------
>from: Sherry Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Braillenote] web browser

>Hi all,

>I have had so much fun teaching myself to use the BN email program.  It's been 
>great, and now I am trying to use the web browser.  By the way, before I get 
>into my web questions, how would I write an email address in the body of a 
>message on the braille note?  For example, I often type my email address below 
>my name at the end of my messages, so that people who are still new to using 
>screen readers and who may not know how to find the email headers, can see my 
>email address if they want to reply personally.  But of course, when writing 
>in grade 2 braille on the BN, the symbols for computer signs will come out as 
>gibberish when read back on a regular PC.  Should I just write it in computer 
>braille, using the U chord before the period and at sign?

>Ok, now to the browser.  I tried going to a favorite site of mine, 
>audible.com.  On my PC, there is a cookie, so audible recognizes me when I go 
>to their site.  This is good for me so I don't have to log in to browse or go 
>through my wish list or buy books.  So, I went to audible a couple times over 
>the last few days with the BN.  It goes there fine.  But of course, I have to 
>sign in to access my account stuff.  I read the BN manual three times to be 
>sure I'm doing everything right.  i found the edit field for my username and 
>password.  I remembered the manual said press enter after typing text in an 
>edit field, so i typed my username and pressed enter.  The braille display 
>said, please wait, 0 percent for about five minutes, and I gave up.  When I 
>tried again, i tried typing in the username and password before pressing 
>enter.  again it said please wait and 0 percent.  I went away, fed my dog, let 
>her outside to relieve, got some red wine ...  you know, gave things time to h
 appen.  when I returned to the BN, it had the same message, please wait 0 
percent.

>Ok, i'm sure I've missed something.  i'm good with written instructions, but 
>since the BN works quite differently than the PC, i've probably forgotten to 
>do something.  Any ideas what?  i'm still on my trip, and i'd like to be able 
>to use the BN for the web, so my friend can have lots of time to practice the 
>things I'm teaching her on the PC.  I will be ever so grateful for any ideas.  
>Thanks!

>Sherry
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