Hi Isaac and Company,

On 27 Dec 2004 at 22:11, Isaac Obie spoke, thus:

> It sounds like somebody's beenlooking at the elba.

It's totally inappropriate for me to follow up on this thread, but I'm 
going to chance it anyway because of the tenuous links involved here 
between the ELBA, voice recording and added functionality. :-)

As a developer, it has been the greatest news to me to learn that 
Papenmeier, the guys who put the ELBA together, have officially declared 
the codebase of the entire product - not just what needs to be open, the 
whole darn lot - open source.  When I wrote to the list some time ago I 
speculated that the SDK approach would have a potentially big effect on 
the BrailleNote, but that it would see an important limitation - it would 
only allow the development of new programs in an already fairly disparate 
developer network of blind and vision-impaired developers and their 
interest in furtherance of the product.  This has manifested itself in the 
ELBA of old with similar provisions, and Papenmeier's response has been to 
go truely open source in consequence, with the hope that the development 
efforts for the Linux-based device will increase with its support of 
associated Free Software philosophy.  I congratulate this choice.  Since 
PulseData have not begun to walk the path of enlightenment as of yet, I 
have yet to comment on the results of the release of SDK and associated 
improvements in product development and/or testing that would make it more 
open and/or responsive to user complaint and recommendation.  Certainly, 
and this is something that will take an off-topic thread on this list in 
itself, the use of Linux in the ELBA is a good choice for guaranteeing 
freedom of choice of text-based software (yes, text adventures and 
textmode IM clients are the most obvious example of this), but there is no 
reason why enthusiasm for developing simple-to-use, menu-oriented 
applications for the KeySoft platform should not have serious potential.

I've already fairly well documented my annoyance at having to watch posts 
on this list demanding this sort of flexibility and choice, that and the 
other application or function, not because I feel they are necessarily 
wrong to make an appearance at all (though I have on a number of occasions 
done so where the request is clearly inappropriate or ludicrous and out-of-
context for mainstream PDA usage), but because I as a developer have on 
more than one occasion agreed with said posters and wished that I could 
make the change or add the feature requested for the good of everyone.  
So, with the exception of recording and other such that demands hardware 
upgrades, I am very much on Paul's side with regard to the "Clothes-tree" 
problem; if PulseData choose proprietary but easy-to-use interfaces known 
and approved by the VI community, they must account for its severe 
development limitations by one or more means, whether that's the SDK, open 
source, shorter release cycles, public beta-testing, bugfixing and 
knitpicking fulfilments and so on and realise that they are always falling 
short of the mainstream PDA definition, technologically as well as 
functionally, where their immediate competitors do not.  We have already 
seen how public beta-testing could have benefited the PK in the matter of 
the SMTP delivery problem, though I understand that for an initial release 
demanding new hardware this was hard to avoid.

Much of the individual points on this have been made by me time and again, 
I won't repeat them.  You should probably try searching the archives if 
you are determined to see the full explanations.  I will only add that 
being a developer means that I will scratch my own itches given the 
chance, and that on absolutely no account do I represent the slave to this 
or any other assistive technology company.  It is not enough to allow the 
decision-making process to happen entirely outside my control, so do not 
accept the notion that I am merely a consumer awaiting the next big 
inovation.  Yes, open source and AGRIP is what gave me this view, it will 
never change after that.  Just know that there is someone else who listens 
to you and is hopeful one day to be able to spare the hours and time to 
give you a response to your "Can I have" questions with something other 
than "Nope, sorry, PulseData aint dunnit yet."

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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