fill the blanks: CM = C...sM..e ;-) On Dec 19, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Jaime Balbino wrote:
> Também já tinha procurado sem encontrar nada. Mas conheço a CCE e > ela > tem mania de nomear todos os seus produtos que sao na verdade O&M. > Assim o CM21 deve ser o Classmate mesmo. > > Últimas palavras do preogeiro: > "Nesse ínterim, pedimos ao licitante que apresentou o melhor lance > que > adote as providências de sua competência que lhe permita revisar os > seus custos, de forma a ofertar preço compatível com a meta prevista > pela Administração, pois o valor do último lance não permite a > Adjudicação. Obrigado!" > > > A Positivo com seu Classmate é até agora a vencedora da > licitação para > compra de 150 mil laptops. Com o término dos lances livres aquele que > fez a melhor oferta tem direito de reelaborá-la para se > compatibilizar > com o "preço de referência". > > Os demais concorrentes ficam de fora desta parte do leilão. > > Se a Positivo não conseguir apresentar uma oferta de acordo com as > expectativas do governo o leilão pode ser cancelado. > > Um abraço, > Jaime Balbino > > Em 19/12/07, Alexandre Van de Sande<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escreveu: >> e jaime, nunca havia falado do CM21, e aprentemenrte o google nao >> foi muito >> útil. Que laptop é esse? >> >> >> On Dec 19, 2007 12:41 PM, Alexandre Van de Sande < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> então a positivo informática tem um laptop que faz mesh >>> networking, tem >> camera, microfone e que atende as exigencias de tela e resistencia do >> edital? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2007 12:34 PM, Paulo Drummond < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Tratamento Diferenciado: - >>>> Situação do Item: Realizar Aceitação Qtde Aceita: >>>> 0 >>>> >>>> CNPJ/CPF Razão Social/Nome Porte >>>> ME/EPP Declaração >>>> ME/EPP Qtde >>>> Ofertada Melhor Lance >>>> (R$) Data/Hora >>>> Melhor Lance Valor Negoc. >>>> (R$) Situação do Lance >>>> 81.243.735/0001-48 POSITIVO INFORMATICA S/A Não >>>> Não >> 150.000 >>>> 98.180.000,0000 19/12/2007 12:15:31:553 >>>> Marca: Positivo Informática >>>> Fabricante: POSITIVO INFORMÁTICA S.A. >>>> Descrição Complementar: Atende plenamente as especificações, >>>> condições e prazos exigidos no edital e anexos. >>>> 07.130.025/0001-59 DIGIBRAS INDUSTRIA DO BRASIL S/A Sim >> Não >>>> 150.000 98.800.000 ,0000 19/12/2007 12:12:55:287 >>>> Marca: CCE - Modelo CM 21 >>>> Fabricante: Digibras >>>> Descrição Complementar: Informamos que atendemos todos os >>>> requisitos >>>> do Edital conforme Item 8 do anexo 1 >>>> 06.964.587/0001-35 SIMM - SOLUCOES INTELIGENTES PARA >>>> MERCADO MOVEL >>>> DO BRAS Não Não 150.000 104.595.000,0000 >> 19/12/2007 11:58:57:583 >>>> Marca: OLPC XO >>>> Fabricante: OLPC >>>> Descrição Complementar: Computador Laptop Educacional >>>> Desenvolvido >>>> para Utilização por Crianças >>>> 01.169.999/0001-60 REIFASA COMERCIAL LTDA Sim Não >>>> 150.000 >>>> 113.999.990,9900 19/12/2007 11:53:41:430 >>>> Marca: CCE >>>> Fabricante: CCE >>>> Descrição Complementar: Atende a todas as especificações do >>>> edital. >>>> 54.526.082/0004-84 ITAUTEC S.A. - GRUPO ITAUTEC Não >>>> Não >> 150.000 >>>> 175.579.460,0000 18/12/2007 15:19:06:850 >>>> Marca: Itautec >>>> Fabricante: Itautec >>>> Descrição Complementar: De acordo com as especificações do >>>> Edital nº >>>> 59/2007 e seus Anexos >>>> 03.474.553/0001-74 TELIS ELETRONICOS LTDA. Não >>>> Não >> 150.000 >>>> 450.000.000,0000 18/12/2007 14:45:03:380 >>>> Marca: Pacific Network >>>> Fabricante: Pacific Network >>>> Descrição Complementar: Lap To conforme descrição do edital. >>>> 08.762.474/0001-82 AUTOSIS INFORMATICA LTDA EPP Sim Sim >> 150.000 >>>> 750.000.000,0000 18/12/2007 14:45:03:397 >>>> Marca: SONY >>>> Fabricante: SONY >>>> Descrição Complementar: ESPECIFICACÕES EM NOSSA PROPOSTA >>>> 05.201.844/0001-14 MAIS IMAGEM LOCACOES LTDA EPP Sim Sim >> 150.000 >>>> 2.250.000.000,0000 18/12/2007 14:45:03:397 >>>> Marca: acer / sony vaio >>>> Fabricante: acer / sony vaio >>>> Descrição Complementar: descrição conforme edital e seus anexos >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 19, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Jaime Balbino wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Como você sabe que foi da Positivo, Paulo? >>>>> >>>>> Em 19/12/07, Paulo Drummond<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 19, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Jaime Balbino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> A fase de lance está encerrada. O melhor lance foi de 98,18 >>>>>>> milhões >>>>>>> de reais. >>>>>> >>>>>> Da Positivo (Classmate) >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> O pregoeiro ainda afirma que o valor é alto, por isso o leilão >>>>>>> entrará >>>>>>> em uma nova fase de negociação via chat direto com ele. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vamos continuar acompanhando. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> O Alexandre e eu achamos que o "preço de referência" não >>>>>>> deve ser >>>>>>> US$ >>>>>>> 250, mas algo próximo dos US$ 350 para poder incluir os >>>>>>> impostos >>>>>>> e os >>>>>>> demais compromissos. Se for isso, o último valor ofertado >>>>>>> não estará >>>>>>> longe da meta do governo, que seria de US$ 94,5 milhões >>>>>>> aproximadamente. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Um abraço, >>>>>>> Jaime. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MINISTÉRIO DA EDUCAÇÃO >>>>>>> Fundo Nacional de Desenvolvimento da Educação >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pregão nº 592007 - Eletrônico >>>>>>> Objeto: Objeto: Pregão Eletrônico - Contratação de empresa >>>>>>> especializada para fornecimento de 150.000 equipamentos >>>>>>> portáteis >>>>>>> denominados laptops educacionais, para atendimento de 300 >>>>>>> escolas do >>>>>>> Piloto do Projeto ´Um Computador por Aluno (UCA), na forma e >>>>>>> condições >>>>>>> estabelecidas no Edital e seus anexos. >>>>>>> Data da Realização (início dos lances): 18/12/2007 14:30 >>>>>>> Data da Abertura da Sessão: 18/12/2007 14:45 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Para ver as propostas recebidas, clique sobre o número do item. >>>>>>> Item Descrição Tratamento >>>>>>> Diferenciado Situação Melhor Lance >>>>>>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP - Realizar >>>>>>> Aceitação R$ >>>>>>> 98.180.000,0000 >>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo I: Participação Exclusiva de ME/ >>>>>>> EPP >>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo II: Exigência de >>>>>>> subcontratação de >>>>>>> ME/EPP >>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo III: Cota para participação >>>>>>> exclusiva >>>>>>> de ME/EPP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MINISTÉRIO DA EDUCAÇÃO >>>>>>> Fundo Nacional de Desenvolvimento da Educação >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pregão nº 592007 - Eletrônico >>>>>>> Objeto: Objeto: Pregão Eletrônico - Contratação de empresa >>>>>>> especializada para fornecimento de 150.000 equipamentos >>>>>>> portáteis >>>>>>> denominados laptops educacionais, para atendimento de 300 >>>>>>> escolas do >>>>>>> Piloto do Projeto ´Um Computador por Aluno (UCA), na forma e >>>>>>> condições >>>>>>> estabelecidas no Edital e seus anexos. >>>>>>> Data da Realização (início dos lances): 18/12/2007 14:30 >>>>>>> Data da Abertura da Sessão: 18/12/2007 14:45 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Para ver as propostas recebidas, clique sobre o número do item. >>>>>>> Item Descrição Tratamento >>>>>>> Diferenciado Situação Melhor Lance >>>>>>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP - Realizar >>>>>>> Aceitação R$ >>>>>>> 98.180.000,0000 >>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo I: Participação Exclusiva de ME/ >>>>>>> EPP >>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo II: Exigência de >>>>>>> subcontratação de >>>>>>> ME/EPP >>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo III: Cota para participação >>>>>>> exclusiva >>>>>>> de ME/EPP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sos do leilão. Se o valor for esse o último valor ofertado >>>>>>> não está >>>>>>> longe do >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED] > escreveu: >>>>>>>> Rompemos a barreira dos 100! A melhores ofertas foram 99,736 >>>>>>>> milhões >>>>>>>> de reais e de 99,4 milhões agora. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: >>>>>>>>> O pregoeiro ameçou revogar o leilão se os valores não >>>>>>>>> chegarem ao >>>>>>>>> "preço de referência" que só ele sabe qual é. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> O menor lance até agora é 101,5 milhões de reais. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> E continua caindo... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>> O preço continua caindo com várias ofertas, a última é >>>>>>>>>> de 103,7 >>>>>>>>>> milhões ou R$ 691,33. Se o governo tirar os impostos como >>>>>>>>>> prometeu o >>>>>>>>>> valor final ficará abaixo de R$ 350 por máquina. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mesmo assim o pregoeiro avisou mais uma vez que os valores >>>>>>>>>> estão >>>>>>>>>> "muito acima" do esperado e aguarda mais "propostas >>>>>>>>>> efetivas". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Não dá para saber até onde isso é verdade ou se é só >>>>>>>>>> "caô" do >>>>>>>>>> preogoeiro. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Um abraço, >>>>>>>>>> Jaime. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> Outra oferta de 105,45 milhões de reais ou R$ 703. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>> A estratégia parece que funcionou, a melhor oferta >>>>>>>>>>>> agora é >>>>>>>>>>>> 107,92 >>>>>>>>>>>> milhões de reais. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alguém ofertou R$ 109,7 milhões! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A queda livre continua a menos de 1 minuto do >>>>>>>>>>>>>> encerramento. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> O melhor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> valor agora é R$ 116 milhões. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O melhor lance até agora é de 117,8 milhões. Faltam 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutos para o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> término do leilão. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As ofertas estão aparecendo muito rápido, agora já >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estamos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em 118,35 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milhões. Mas o pregoeiro fala: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (19/12/2007 11:36:54) É com muita tristeza que >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informamos que os >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lances ainda estão muito acima da expectativa da >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração e do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orçamento previsto para esta aquisição, mesmo com a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proximidade do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> período de 'Encerramento Aleatório'. Voltamos a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lembrar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que seremos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obrigados a cancelar o certame caso a expectativa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orçamentária não >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seja alcançada. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ou seja, o leilão pode dar em nada! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não sei se o pregoeiro irá divulgar o tal "valor de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referência" para >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forçar um acordo de última hora. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Os lances estão rápidos, agora é 118,5. menos 100 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mil em >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relação ao anterior. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não dá para saber se é o mesmo licitante tentando >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chegar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ao valor "de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referência" ou se está havendo disputa. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agora o lance é de 118,6 milhões. Uma redução >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridícula >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para a proposta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anterior, mas bem considerável para o primeiro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> melhor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lance de ontem, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior aos 140 milhões de reais. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mais um lance um pouquinho melhor, de 118,699 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milhões, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou seja R$ 1,34 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais barato que o anterior por máquina. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O melhor valor agora é 118,7 milhões de reais >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou R$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 791,33 por máquina. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E o leilão está acabando, pregoeiro fala: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (19/12/2007 11:19:34) Atenção! Entramos no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> período >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 'Iminência de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Encerramento' no qual os lances podem e devem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuar a ser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encaminhados, principalmente em função de que >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuam muito elevados >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em relação ao preço de referência da >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ou seja os preços continuam altos para o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregoeiro, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mas o leilão se >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encerrá mesmo assim, aleatoriamente, após às >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:47h. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas o preogeiro também alega que: "Todavia, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comunicamos que caso não >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seja alcançada a meta de preço pretendida pela >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração, o pregão >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> não será adjudicado." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ou seja, quem ganhar não necessariamente irá >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rompemos a barreira dos 120. O melhor lance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agora é >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 119,2 milhões. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mais um lance abaixo de 123,5 milhões de reais >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou R$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 823 por máquina. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Os lances estão abaixando, já diminuíram do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entorno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 127 milhões de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais para 124,9 milhões. Uma redução bem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considerável. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas o pregoeiro continua insistindo que o valor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> está alto e pede >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> também que a composição de preços inclua >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> todos os >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impostos por >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escrito. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não dá para saber quem deu o lance ou se todas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essas reduções são do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mesmo concorrente ou ainda se está havendo uma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disputa entre dois ou >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais concorrentes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/12/07, Jaime Balbino< [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dei uma olhada agora. O leilão ficou >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspenso às >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18:00h e será >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retomado amanhã cedo (9:30h). O menor valor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agora >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> é 128,26 milhões de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais, quase 20 milhões de diferença para a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primeira proposta maisd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baixa. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eu e outros erramos feio ao achar que o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preço não >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poderia cair mais. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas o pregoeiro ainda afirma que o valor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> está bem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acima do "preço de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referência", que só ele sabe qual é. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abaixo transcrevo as últimas mensagens do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregoeiro: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "(18/12/2007 18:02:24) Senhores, chegamos ao >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deste dia sem que >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> houvesse uma redução de preços realmente >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significativa, sendo que os >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valores cotados permanecem completamente >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaceitáveis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 18:03:02) Desta forma, considerando >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que os preços cotados >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permanecem MUITO altos em relação ao preço >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referência da >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração, o que impede de entrar no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> período >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de iminência de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encerramento, suspenderemos o pregão neste >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> momento >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para avaliação. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retornaremos amanhã, 19/12/2007, às 9:30h, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> novas informações, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ficando desde já todos os licitantes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convocados a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acompanhar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 18:04:00) Nesse ínterim, pedimos o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esforço de todos no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentido de revisar suas planilhas de custos, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de cotar preços >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compatíveis com aquele orçado pela >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 18:04:22) Obrigado!" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/12/07, José Antonio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItemDescriçãoTratamento >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DiferenciadoSituaçãoMelhor Lance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItemDescriçãoTratamento >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DiferenciadoSituaçãoMelhor Lance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP - Aberto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para Lances 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAPTOP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Aberto para Lances R$ 129.700.000,0000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2007 5:52 PM, José Antonio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pequenos cálculos com o preço atual aqui: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> key=pH0vKjJkMrh3kdYXJ2dlaJA&hl=pt_BR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2007 5:50 PM, José Antonio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pregoeiro fala: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 17:41:38) Comunicamos que não >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> está >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sendo levada em consideração qualquer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redução >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de preço com base em convênio publicado >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nesta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItemDescriçãoTratamento >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DiferenciadoSituaçãoMelhor Lance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aberto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para Lances R$ 140.100.000,0000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2007 3:29 PM, Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pessoal, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Estou acompanhando a licitação de 150 mil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptops. O processo começou >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14:45 (previsto incialmente para 14:30h). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tivemos 8 propostas, a mais alta foi de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 2 bilhões de reais >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pelos 150 mil laptops. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A mais baixa foi de 143 milhões de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais. Não >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dá para saber quem fez a oferta. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Este valor mais baixo significa 953 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais por >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop. O problema é que >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o governo quer pagar 300 dólares por >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> máquina >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no máximo. O que dá hoje >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 840 reais por laptop. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O leiloeiro está insistindo para que os >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participantes refaçam a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposta para se chegar a um valor mais >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> próximo destes US$300 por >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sinceramente acho muito difícil o preço >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais, já que cada máquina >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deve pagar todos os impostos normais, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incluir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o software do servidor e >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ainda cada licitante tem que oferecer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garantia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 3 anos para o laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e o software do servidor. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A OLPC, que teria um preço bom, custa 342 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais hoje (sem frete), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somando-se todos os impostos o preço tende >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dobrar e cada OLPC sairá >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> por 700 reais! Some-se o custo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual da >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garantia de 3 anos, o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> custo de instalação do servidor (no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caso da >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC o desenvolvimento do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software já está feito) e o risco (que >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> é alto) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fica difícil oferecer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> um valor razoável. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas vamos continuar acompanhando. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brasil mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/brasil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nome: "José Antonio Meira da Rocha" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tratamento: "Prof. MS." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mídias >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digitais" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> googletalk: email: MSN: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ: 658222 Skype: "meiradarocha_jor" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veículos: [ http://meiradarocha.jor.br >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http:// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olpcitizen.blogspot.com ] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nome: "José Antonio Meira da Rocha" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tratamento: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Prof. MS." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em mídias >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digitais" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> googletalk: email: MSN: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ: 658222 Skype: "meiradarocha_jor" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veículos: [ http://meiradarocha.jor.br >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http:// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olpcitizen.blogspot.com ] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nome: "José Antonio Meira da Rocha" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tratamento: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Prof. MS." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em mídias >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digitais" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> googletalk: email: MSN: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ: 658222 Skype: "meiradarocha_jor" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veículos: [ http://meiradarocha.jor.br >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http:// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olpcitizen.blogspot.com ] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brasil mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/brasil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Brasil mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/brasil >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Brasil mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/brasil >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Brasil mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/brasil >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> Alexandre Van de Sande >>> www.wanderingabout.com >>> rio de janeiro >>> >>> ҉ >> >> >> >> -- >> Alexandre Van de Sande >> www.wanderingabout.com >> rio de janeiro >> >> ҉ > _______________________________________________ > Brasil mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/brasil _______________________________________________ Brasil mailing list [email protected] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/brasil
