thanks so much!

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 12:51:12 PM UTC-5 Murray Roblin wrote:

> Following up, here is a link describing pressurestats and their issues:
>
> https://www.espresso-restorations.com/p-stats.html
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:25:21 AM UTC-8 Murray Roblin wrote:
>
>> Before I knew that WLL was getting a shipment of these pressurestats, I 
>> went down a pressurestat rabbit hole, primarily on home-barista. 
>>
>> Most machines use them and there is a clear divide between pressurestats 
>> for commercial machines vs. home machines. Many of the home machine 
>> pressurestats are flimsy and fail regularly. Failure mechanisms include 
>> diaphragm failure/sticking and electrical contact failure. One suggestion 
>> is to try to isolate the pressurestat from boiler heat, which might be 
>> difficult with our Brewtuses (Brewti?). Another suggestion is to install a 
>> relay/contactor between the pressurestat and the water boiler to reduce the 
>> load on the contacts when it switches from steam heat to boiler heat 
>> (current to water boiler heater flows directly through pressurestat 
>> switch). 
>>
>> Another suggestion is to adapt a commercial pressurestat, e.g. Parker, to 
>> our machines. The biggest issue is space - I think that the Parker style 
>> pressurestats are too large to fit in the location of the existing 
>> pressurestat. There are smaller sized commercial pressurestats that might 
>> fit.
>>
>> Or, perhaps the pressurestat should be considered a wear part and we 
>> should all keep a stock of a few to replace as needed.
>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 8:12:01 AM UTC-8 Mike Walsh wrote:
>>
>>> I appreciate WLL continuing to have these available, esp since they 
>>> don't seem to last long.
>>>
>>> I can often get some additional time out of them once they begin 
>>> sticking by rotating the adjustment a turn or two in each direction, then 
>>> returning it to the original position.  That may get me another month or 
>>> two each time.  But eventually they fail with a fairly short lifetime.
>>>
>>> Is there ANYTHING that we can retrofit without too much trouble that has 
>>> a longer life?
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 6:05:03 PM UTC-5 Murray Roblin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for being so responsive. WLL for the win. I'll follow up with 
>>>> you directly.
>>>> Murray
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-8 Todd Salzman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   We do have them on order.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll talk with Noah about this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not have an exact ETA but it is about two weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Send me a private e mail if you like and we can get an order set up if 
>>>>> you like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Todd
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 5:41 PM Murray Roblin <mro...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Todd,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/3-wire-pressurestat-d1-15-narrow-band
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chat today with Noah confirmed out of stock and suggested (though
>>>>>> didn't explicitly state) that they would not be restocked.. He
>>>>>> directed me to espressoparts.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Murray
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 2:25 PM Todd Salzman <
>>>>>> to...@wholelattelove.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Which pressurestat are you looking for?
>>>>>> > We are still getting Expobar parts
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Todd
>>>>>> > Whole Latte Love
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 4:10 PM Murray Roblin <
>>>>>> mur...@farleyroblin.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hi all. Failed pressurestat, sticking connection to steam boiler. 
>>>>>> Big steam noise!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> WLL is out of stock and chat suggests they will not restock.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Has anyone used / adapted an alternative?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> (Bums me out that WLL is not restocking).
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >> Murray
>>>>>> >>
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