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Jeroen--
I have no idea how to reply to the message below, since it
has "Recipient list suppressed". But this seems to be your preferred
forum, so let me do it here. You should let go of your negative
feelings about the other Brin List. I don't want to get into it
here, but I certainly had you killfiled for the last few months
because I did not want to experience any more of your antics.
You got kicked off because you acted like a jerk. Now
maybe others were also jerks, but they managed to do it in such
a way that all I had to do was ignore their posts. You did
succeed in taking it to the next level. It was sad, because you
had also made a lot of positive contributions as well. But that
did not give you license to act as you did.
People do judge you by your actions, and self-serving
trolling for new members such as the following does not reflect
well on you:
> And remember, you're always welcome on Brin-L's *tolerant* version:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Jeroen van Baardwijk
> Listowner, The New & Improved Brin-L
> www.brin-l.com
With that said, I do like this new list--most of the
posts manage to stay on topic for a change. Maybe the two Brin
Lists could declare a truce, and let the past be? You would
stop claiming to be "new, improved and tolerant", and the old
list would make official mention of your list on websites and
in periodic FAQ postings.
---David Hobby
P.S. No "Wall of Shame", please.
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Subject:
Plonkworthy?
Date:
Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:07:58 +0200
From:
Jeroen van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
(Recipient list suppressed)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Harney wrote:
> I have been informed today that I have been plonked by one of the
> listmembers. Which listmember is irrelivant.
> The listmember informed me that my "intollerance" was reminiscent of
Jeroen.
Well, that certainly narrows down the list of suspects. I have fought
back
when people attacked me, but only a handful of people on what is now the
"old Brin-L" considered my self-defense "intolerance".
> When I recently rejoined the list, I sensed apprehension and fear
from some
> list members at my return. I assumed I was just reading more into
the
> messages than was there, and in all likelyhood the fear and
apprehension was
> my own. Was I wrong? Are there listmembers that are affraid of me
here?
> Do my posts seem intollerant?
Don't let criticism like that bother you, Michael; the ones who
criticise
you most are usually also the ones who have the most problems with views
that differ from their own.
But anyway, you don't appear to be on Nick Arnett's personal shitlist,
so
any fear and apprehension that certain people might feel about you, and
any
alleged intolerance from your side, won't have any serious consequences
--
like being thrown off the list...
> All opinions welcome, both on-list or off.
> I will not hold what is said against anyone. If enough people
express a
> desire for me to leave I will do so and never return. The last thing
I want
> is to make people uncomfortable.
You've always been one of the better persons on what is now the "old
Brin-L"; if certain people want you to leave, then just remember that
they
are among the intolerant lowlifes of the list and that you are a far
better
person than any of those morons. Only *you* should decide whether to
stay
or leave, it's not for other people to make that decision for you.
And remember, you're always welcome on Brin-L's *tolerant* version:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeroen van Baardwijk
Listowner, The New & Improved Brin-L
www.brin-l.com
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