> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l-bounces@;mccmedia.com]On > Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk
... > With some people, yes -- but not with Giorgis. Over the years, he > has been > talked to by several people about his behaviour, but he has never > shown any > signs of improvement. So, why should anyone believe that the > dinging system > will suddenly get him to accept that he has been misbehaving, and get him > to shape up? I suppose it's because we're eternal optimists. Well, no, actually. IMO, the purpose of any sort of governance is not behavior modification, but to create appropriate consequences for anti-social behavior. Those may seem to be the same thing, but done well, they're not. I must say, though, that I am terribly tempted to propose a deal in which all parties would abandon any attempts to change others' behavior around here. But I'm not at all confident that we really know how to see and act upon such boundaries. Nick _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l