On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 10:18:57PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > problem with that arguement. My arguement is that people can pick up > many non-verbal signals about the internal mental states of others. > Your arguement appears to be that people can pick up false signals.
No, you have completely missed my point. The point is that praying is as negligible as a pebble in your shoe or sucking on a piece of candy in the direct effect that it has on helping homeless people. You would say the same thing if you were discussing something like air-powered cars, but here you have some sort of mental block. > Because the question was whether prayer could. I also beg to differ > as to whether a nasty or positive attitude towards the other people in > the world matters much. But, then we've differed on that for a long > time now. I didn't say it doesn't "matter much", in general, as you imply here. But I did say that it doesn't have much effect on helping the homeless. > Do you really believe that? Do you have experiments showing that > people who have friends with pebbles in their shoes recover faster > than those who have friends who don't. You are again missing the point. You admitted in another post that if the people don't KNOW they are being prayed for, there is no effect. If you told people that others are intentionally walking around with a pebble in their shoe in order to help them, I bet the results would be the same as the prayer study you cited. By the way, I'm praying that you will return to your normal, healthy scientific state of mind. :-) -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
