----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Robert Kagan on Europe and the US
> > Dan Minette wrote: > > > >The sources I read suggested that immigration from Albania has been going > >on for 400+ years. What was the fraction in the early 20th century? > > > You are the statistics guy. Get your sources :-P OK at http://www.decani.yunet.com/histkim.html we have The Great 1690 Migration was a important turning point in the history of the Serbs. In Kosovo and Metohia alone, towns and some villages were abandoned to the last inhabitant....The century after the Great Migration saw a fresh exodus of the Serbs from Kosovo and Metohia, and a growing influence of ethnic Albanians on political circumstances. And Ethnic circumstances in Kosovo and Metohia in the early 19th century can be reconstructed on the basis of data obtained from the books written by foreign travel writers and ethnographers who journeyed across European Turkey. Joseph Miller's studies show that in late 1830s, 56,200 Christians and 80,150 Muslims lived in Metohia; 11,740 of the Muslims were Islamized Serbs, and 2,700 of the Christians were Catholic Albanians. However, clear picture of the ethnic structure during this period cannot be obtained until one takes into account the fact that from 1815 to 1837 some 320 families, numbering ten to 30 members each, fled Kosovo and Metohia ahead of ethnic Albanian violence. According to Hilferding's figures, Pec numbered 4,000 Muslim and 800 Christian families, Pristina numbered 1,200 Muslim, 900 Orthodox and 100 Catholic families with a population of 12,000 and... Despite the persecution and the steady outflow of people. Serbs still accounted for almost half the population in Kosovo and Metohia in 1912. So, I'd argue that in the Kosovo region, there was an Albanian majority a long way back. > > >> > >> My bet is that the next country to be Kosovoed is Germany - a > >> fine irony for their n--- past. > > > >If you extrapolate the fraction of German population that is Turkish over > >the last 30 years, how long will it take for Turks to become 10% of the > >population? > > > See above :-))))) Well, my understanding is that the Turkish population as a % of the population has been pretty steady over the last 20 years. I know that from '98 to '00, the Turkish population actually fell. So, the extrapolated increase would probably not arrive at 10% in the 21st century. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l