----- Original Message ----- From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Recipient list suppressed> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Admin: Server access blocked
> This is message #13 that the censors (Nick Arnett and Julia Thompson) did > not want you to see. > ______________________________________________________________________ ____ > > > (Note that by this most recent attack by Arnett, I have now essentially > been banned without having been unsubscribed. Although I can still > *receive* messages, I cannot *send* any messages, which (very conveniently > for Arnett) makes it impossible for me to defend myself on-list against any > attacks. And of course, he denies any responsibility and refuses to discuss > the matter. What happened to transparency and accountability?) > > > At 10:13 04-12-2002 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: > > >Yesterday, Jeroen van Baardwijk posted about 40 messages to the list and its > >administrative address, all of which were re-postings of previous messages > >that were not acceptable under the list policies or were repeats of previous > >demands regarding the complaints that he has voiced on and off the list. > > I know we cannot trust Arnett to give an accurate account (because it would > be detrimental to his cause), so I will provide it here. > > I re-sent the 12 messages that Arnett so far has refused to forward to the > list, because he has no right whatsoever to block them. This action > resulted in twelve identical messages from Arnett, in which he informed me > that he refuses to forward the messages. I subsequently replied to each of > these messages, informing him that he has no right to do what he is doing. > As he has no right to block my messages, I then sent the twelve rejected > messages again. > > I also re-sent the list censors an off-list message in which I asked them a > couple of questions (that is the message that Arnett calls "repeats of > previous demands"). This message was re-sent because the censors > consistently refuse to answer any questions about this matter and refuse to > even discuss it. > > That adds up to a total of 37 messages, 24 of which were re-postings of > twelve previous messages. > > > >After discussion with Julia, I sent the following message to Jeroen. > > > >-- > > > >Jeroen, > > > >We're not going to discuss your concerns further. The list policy is clear > >and we have answered all the questions that we're going to answer. > >Demonstrate that you are abiding by the list policies and your messages will > >be handled like any other member. > > > >You sent 40 messages this morning, every one of which was redundant. Stop > >sending messages repeatedly and any other form of harassment. > > I does not surprise me that Arnett conveniently leaves out my reply to his > message, so I will include it here: > > ----- Message start ----- > At 11:08 03-12-2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >Jeroen, > > > >We're not going to discuss your concerns further. The list policy is clear > >and we have answered all the questions that we're going to answer. > > What you are doing is not *list* policy, it is *Arnett & Thompson* policy. > If you check your archives, you will see that the list has repeatedly > agreed that listowners are not supposed to take actions against listmembers > without discussing the matter on-list and without getting the list's > consent. You have neither first on-list discussed taking actions against > me, nor has the list given its explicit consent. You are therefore not > *following* list policy, you are *violating* list policy. > > > >Demonstrate that you are abiding by the list policies and your messages will > >be handled like any other member. > > And how exactly am I supposed to demonstrate that? What the hell do I have > to do to get rid of this ridiculous censoring of my posts? How long do you > intend to keep that up? A month? A year? Forever? > > > >You sent 40 messages this morning, every one of which was redundant. Stop > >sending messages repeatedly and any other form of harassment. > > Stop censoring my posts then. Your actions are doing more harm than good to > the list. > > > Jeroen > ----- Message end ----- > > (Note: this reply has been sent to the list censors twice so far, and they > still refuse to respond to it.) > > > >This morning, we received another 17 similar messages from Jeroen. > > Of these messages, 12 were re-postings of messages that did not meet the > censors' approval. Two messages were off-list messages (one of them a reply > to the message Arnett quotes above), which were re-sent because the censors > refuse to reply to them. As for the remaining 3 messages, I do not recall > sending those. > > > >In response, I have blocked access to the mccmedia.com mail server for > >the e-mail address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (from which those messages > >messages originated). This means that no mail with that return address > >will be accepted at mccmedia.com. > > And once again, Arnett abuses his listowner powers for his personal > vendetta against me. > > Mr. Arnett, although I know that you will not give a damn, this is my FINAL > WARNING. This is a ORDER TO CEASE AND DESIST in your censoring. I hereby > order you to stop censoring my posts, and order you to restore my access to > the mail server. If you fail to do so, you can expect an harassment law > suit against you, in which I will claim an amount in damages that will not > be less than one million US dollars. I will then also make all your e-mails > public and expose you on-line for the power-hungry sick man you really are; > should your career suffer any damage from these actions, then you will only > have yourself to blame for it -- I will not accept any responsibility for > it whatsoever. > > As Julia Thompson is also a listowner, she is as much responsible for this > as Arnett, which means that the above warning applies to her as well. > > I should point out that refusing to forward this message to the list will > be used in court as evidence of your gross abuse of power. > > > >This is an action that I take only with GREAT reluctance. However, neither > >Julia nor I is willing to endure harassment of this kind. > > Odd that you should say that, as it is YOU who is the one quilty of > harassment, not me. It is also odd because what I am doing is not > harassment -- I am trying to exercise my right to free speech (a right > which you are blatantly violating) and I am trying to get some answers to > some entirely reasonable questions. > > > >I appreciate those of you who have expressed your support during this > >difficult episode. > > I have not seen all that much support for your dictatorial behaviour. > Mostly, people simply do not dare to stand up against you because of a very > realistic fear they will become your next victim. > > > >I hope we've found a reasonable series of steps to balance fairness to the > >individual and mitigation of the list community's disruption and distraction. > > There is nothing reasonable about your actions. Your activities can only be > considered reasonable by insane people who have the same craving for > absolute power as you have. People like Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, Nicolai > Ceaucescu, and Saddam Hussein. > > It is *your* actions that are disruptive to the list. > > > >I regret that this situation has continued to escalate. > > Bullshit. From your behaviour so far, it is obvious that you do not at all > regret what is happening on this list; the only things you regret is that I > have not handed over Brin-L.com to you and have left the list forever. > Hell, you have even admitted that "it is worth it" to disrupt the entire > list for your pathetic personal war against me. > > You are the one who is letting this escalate, because you refuse to admit > you and your actions are wrong. You have only yourself to blame for this. > > > Jeroen "Arnett delenda est" van Baardwijk > > > LEGAL NOTICE: > By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies > (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, > and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative > consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. > _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
