I think you both miss a point when discussing France during WW2:

France was _defeated_, and _surrendered_ to the Germans. Contrary
to common belief, and contrary to what we know about nazism,
France was treated with gentleness by the nazis. Probably because
according to Hitler's twisted religion, the french were almost aryans.

For no other utterly defeated nation, Hitler gave a self-government.
So, its natural that the french would have mixed feeling about the
nazis - and De Gaulle here was quite heroic in trying to move the
french from resignation to an almost suicidal resistence.

Alberto Monteiro


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