--- Reggie Bautista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guatam replied: > >How arrogant. Basically your argument is that > >Limbaugh is popular because he tricks the stupid > >average Americans who listen to him, who are too > dumb > >and foolish to see through him - unlike the great > and > >wise Tom, who does. Just like David, you make my > case > >better than I ever could. > > Guatam, have you ever actually *listened* to Rush > Limbaugh? He regularly > states "facts" that are boldfaced lies or misleading > generalizations. Here > are a few examples from > http://www.fair.org/press-releases/limbaugh-debates-reality.html#sec1.1 > or > http://makeashorterlink.com/?X24916D75
Yes, actually, although not often. I don't have a car, and therefore little reason to listen to the radio. I would point out, btw, that if you are relying on FAIR as a non-partisan source, you're going to be in a lot of trouble. I don't doubt that Limbaugh makes mistakes. He speaks for, what, 2 hours a day, five days a week, 40+ weeks a year, without a script? _Of course_ he makes mistakes. I have a memory for policy minutiae that verges on the photographic, and I make mistakes on this list. I shudder to think how many I would make speaking as much as he does, without the chance to Google for research. In fact, however, you (like Tom) display the usual leftists contempt for those who disagree with you - including the American people. Do you really think Eisenhower won because he lied to the American people? Or do you think that maybe Stevenson's sentiment that most of the American public didn't think had something to do with it? I would posit that the results of the election suggested that they thought pretty well - they certainly thought well enough to vote for someone other than Adlai Stevenson! Have _you_ ever listened to Limbaugh? He's not popular because he lies, he's popular because, first, he's a gifted entertainer, and second, because he speaks to people in a voice that is almost nonexistent in other forms of the mass media - the voice of a patriotic middle American. Not something you can get on NPR - and I _do_ listen to NPR a lot. Limbaugh, like Fox News, is popular because he brilliantly figured out how to provide something that the market wasn't - not unbiased news, but news that lacked the pervasive liberal bias of most of the mass media. On radio, of course, Limbaugh had a particular advantage, where he competes in news terms against the ludicrous NPR. When the left understands that the reason people disagree with you isn't because its smarter than them, or because they're evil liars only seeking power, or as Tom says, "shits", then it will start towards political relevance. Until then, Fox News is going to keep beating the snot out of CNN, not because it's biased, but because it understands its audience. Tom likes to talk about Limbaugh hating, btw. When Limbaugh went deaf (in two weeks!) but was treated by a cochlear implant, Eric Alterman's (currently employed by MSNBC, so clearly his dissent was punished harshly - punish me in such a way, please!) comment was that he wished Limbaugh had gone deaf, because "the country would be better off without him and his 20 million listeners." Limbaugh's done quite a few reprehensible things. Making fun of Chelsea Clinton on TV, for example, was contemptible. I somehow don't recall him ever wishing that one of his opponents was stricken with deafness, or stating that America would be better off without 20 million of his fellow Americans. Who is more driven by hatred here, exactly? ===== Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Freedom is not free" http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l