Damon wrote: > > > So feudalism was just a lot of private contracts? O.K.. > >But if one's choice is "accept a serfdom contract or starve", isn't > >this in fact coercion? > > Technically serfdom is outside the bounds of feudalism because a serf does > not do homage or swear fealty for his lands. Reguardless, using feudalism > to coerce one into a subservient role does not, by itself, imply that > feudalism is inherently a system of pyramid shaped rulership.
So how exactly IS promising goods and services to a lord in exchange for land different from my leasing a house? I probably could do it as barter if I had to--but money is easier. Your definition of feudalism might stretch so far that it is meaningless. > There are plenty of examples where, in fact, where lords either released > their tenants from servile status, or infact held no land fiefs at all > ("bastard" feudalism). I'm sure there were "good" lords, just as there were "good" slave masters. But we're talking about the system of feudalism AS A WHOLE, aren't we? So the correct thing to do is to average coercion used over all lords, to produce an average coercion coefficient for the system as a whole. Or something like that. ---David So did you learn the correct definition of feudalism in school, or something? Let's have it verbatim, then... : ) _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l