At 02:47 PM 2/16/2004, you wrote:


From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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> First, the question is: "Should marriage be redefined to include
homosexual
> unions as well as heterosexual unions?"   And indeed, given the current
> judicial environment, the question can be taken one step further "Does our
> civilization have a moral responsibility to so redefine marriages,
> *immediately?*"
>
> In my mind, however, the questions can be further redefined to be: "Should
> our civilization incentivse homosexual unions by redefining marriage to
> include such unions?"   And also, "Does our civilization have a moral
> obligation to immediately incentivise homosexual unions by so redefining
> marriages *immediately.*?"
>
> I come down very firmly against the latter questions, and also fairly
> firmly aginst the former question as well.


The problem is that your questions are wrong. You ask about *moral* obligations. Moral obligations are subjective, and by virtue of that fact, not the correct standard to apply as there is clearly massive disagreement on that. The real question is: Are we *legally* obligated to do those things? Under the standard of equal protection under the law, Yes, we are obligated to do so.

Michael Harney

That's interesting. Why are we *legally* required to discriminate based on race or gender then?


Kevin T. - VRWC
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