Again, "So far as I know, exit poll results were not released by precincts." Heck, so far as I know, exit poll results were not released by county. Thus, it is very difficult to correlate exit polls to actual results.
But not impossible. This means that for a region for which you have exit polls, you include a factor for the number of precincts in that region that provide audit trails and those that do not. Thus, if the fraud people are correct, a region in which 3/4 of the precints lack audit trails should show an advantage of 3% or so for Bush. But if the `urban legend' people are correct, there should be no advantage. (Obviously, you cannot use just one region, but many. The format must be one in which the inadequacies and errors of exit polls are irrelevant, since the question is about audit-less voting.) The second part about being correlated with audit-less voting is simply not true. One of the biggest errors of the exit polls in 2000 was in Arizona, which did not use electronic voting at the time. That is an anecdotal reponse. That does not help. Indeed, because anecdotal responses are so often used by shivs, that kind of response suggests the opposite is actually true. (I am not claiming the opposite is true, merely that as a rhetorical device, an anecdotal response convinces only some people.) There is no real evidence on tendency to vote during the time of day. I did not know that. My general attitude is that people who are willing to believe conspiracy theories of this scale are generally unpersuadeable. But are you conversing with such people? One issue is the existence of audit-less voting machines. These suggest a less than reasonable concern with voting security. Also, I have heard that the head of the Diebold electronic voting company once said he hoped to deliver elections. His machines are both audit-less and, according stories in the Risks Digest, http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks, can be programmed both at the factory and on site. Unless you think (as many do) that the eleven Republican legal suits against Kennedy's election in 1960 were completely groundless, you should figure that political legitimacy is helped when most people can see that an election is free of fraud or sufficiently free of fraud that the fraud that occurred was irrelevant. (Among other claims, one was that fraudulent Cook County votes for Kennedy far outweighed fraudulent down state votes for Nixon.) The issue is not to convince a small minority of people but a sizeable portion of the population. Perhaps they are wrong. Many people frequently are. The issue is to convince enough of them that the election was legitimate. ... information on voting method can be found here: http://americanhistory.si.edu/vote/patchwork.html That is useful. I hope that someone will be able to take that data and with other data provide an anwwer that convinces a large enough portion, one way or another. ... revealed a vast-right-wing conspiracy .... That is poor rhetoric, since a conspiracy, if it exists, does not have to involve more than a few people. It could involve more, but as far as I can see technically it need not, and for operational security reasons, it should not. The issue is not that of how many ballot boxes can be stuffed, which would require a vast conspiracy. It is how many computers can be programmed at the factory or via the Internet or telephone line by automated machines? -- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l