----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <brin-l@mccmedia.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Bill Moyers: There is no tomorrow


> Erik Reuter wrote:
> > * Nick Arnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I don't think the answer can be "religion," as some would have it.
> >
> >
> > No doubt you have faith that religion isn't causing a lot of the
> > problems.
> >
> > Of course, rational people would look at the evidence. William posted
> > some evidence just minutes before your post. Religion vs. Evolution and
> > Big Bang must not enter into your thoughts, eh, Nick? Just put your
head
> > in the sand and have faith that religion isn't causing problems
there...
>
> I see "religion v. evolution" as an irrational comparison.  God created
> evolution, I believe, so it's not an either-or choice.  Rejection of the
> reality of evolution, which is happening right now inside us, as our
> immune systems evolve defenses against the ever-evolving pathogens, is
> irrational, I believe.
>
> Do you have an example of a religion-free culture to which we could
> compare?  Otherwise, it seems to me that there's little evidence to be
> considered.

We do have evidence of societies which were officially anti-religious.
Marxist societies have tried to stamp out religion for years.  We could
contrast the attitude towards and the development of science in the Soviet
Union and the United States for example.  We could look at which country
made decisions based on irrational assumptions, and what the outcome of
those decisions were.

Dan M.


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