----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <brin-l@mccmedia.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:45 PM Subject: Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)
> On Apr 8, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > >> Warren Ockrassa wrote: > >>> Sigh. Reproduction via union of sperm and egg is sex. It's not >>> meaningful to speak of an asexual pregnancy, and it's impossible >>> for >>> artificial insemination techniques to have existed 2K years ago. >> >> Sure, this is readily apparent to *us*, but back then any pregnancy >> in >> concert with an intact hymen would be considered miraculous. > > How much knowledge of a hymen was there ca. 2K years ago, though? I > mean, did anyone in Galilee even know they existed? Uh......I would think that knowledge was universal. People back then knew how to tell if a woman was a virgin and would test the question if there was any question before a marriage. > >>> I think it's a real stretch, BTW, to say that a woman who's >>> experienced penetrative anal intercourse is a virgin. >> >> But what would those ancient people think? Would they necessarily >> know >> if such a thing occured? > > What difference would that make? Ahhhh........As any stage magician knows, people can be fooled into thinking that unusual things have occured when the truth is rather prosaic. >Ostensibly if the author in Isaiah had said "virgin", he would have >meant virgin -- or else scripture can't validly be applied to modern >life, since other terms would surely have drifted as much. > > Besides that, of course, the word "virgin" wasn't used. There's a > big difference between a young woman and a virgin. True, but that is a separate question. I think were are discussing multiple things in these threads. 1 Oral tradition and political influences have changed the original story and wording of scripture. 2 People can see the miraculous in mundane events when suggested to do so. There might be more in there that I'm not recalling offhand. xponent Reality Lies Maru rob _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
