At 03:01 PM 2/19/2005 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:25:36 -0500, Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>
>> * Doug Pensinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>
>>> So you put 12.4% of your income (to some limit), your employer matches
>>> it and vwala!  You've saved for retirement!!
>>
>> Besides being wrong here about the number, the actual amount going to SS
>> is not enough (even if it really were "saved") to provide people with
>> the retirement most people would like. That is rather the point of a lot
>> of the threads here.
>
>I understand that and have been supportive of many of the reforms you and 
>others have mentioned.  John's statement made it sound as if people 
>receiving SS are living completely off of the largess of the working 
>public when, in fact, they have at least paid _some_ of their dues.

Only to the extent that paying taxes can be described as "paying dues."

JDG
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