On 5/17/05, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 05:00 PM 5/17/2005 -0500, Gary Denton wrote: <snip> > >> >>I suspect is because it was part of that media drumbeat that pro-life > >> >>people > >> >>can't be heard in the Democratic party. > >> > >> I would hope that even you would agree that the failure to let PA Governor > >> Bob Casey speak at the Democratic National Convention played some role in > >> the Democratic Party deserving that storyline. > > > >You snipped out the real reason he wasn't allowed to speak which had nothing > >to do with abortion. On TV and national media he had waged a campaign to > >stop Clinton from getting the nomination saying he wasn't fit to be > >president. Unless their is a public repudiation of those interviews no party > >is going to allow that kind of speaker on the platform. > > Again, not saying its right or wrong - but again identifying the CW. > > >And the fact that: > >> a) Harry Reid is somehow considered to be a "pro-life" Senator in the > >> Democratic Party (compare his deviation from the Democratic mean vs. > >> "pro-choice" Republican Senators' deviation from the mean.) > >> b) Harry Reid is about the only "pro-life" speaker at a Democratic > >> Convention in a long, long time > > > But I did notice that you didn't have a sharp rebuttal for the above.....
Sorry, been busy... You think Reid is not a "pro-life" Senator? Rush Limbaugh disagreed. "Reid, too, opposes abortion and once voted for a nonbinding resolution opposing Roe vs. Wade." The real problem is that the real leadership of the parties has been driven to extremes by what each side sees as the others extremism. Also the GOP is doing its best to get rid of those national moderate members within their party. "What's unusual about the politics of abortion compared to other political issues is that the parties have taken pretty extreme positions compared to the public," says Clyde Wilcox, a Georgetown University professor and co-author of Between Two Absolutes: Public Opinion and the Politics of Abortion. "An awful lot of people think the answer to (a question about access to) abortion is 'it depends.'" "I don't feel that in our state it is viewed as a black-or-white situation," says Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat who supports abortion rights. "People see it in shades of gray." In a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll taken in March, a 55% majority took some middle ground on abortion rights -- either supporting them with exceptions or opposing them with exceptions. Most Republicans and most Democrats take positions at odds with their party's platform. More than six in 10 Democrats would outlaw abortion in some cases; more than seven in 10 Republicans would allow abortion in some cases. Dan has said he is not opposed to a morning after pill and doubts that your position is very far from his. He also seems to want to draw the line, recognizing the child as a human whose death should be classified as murder, soon after conception. I do not support abortions after viability of the fetus except to protect the health and life of the mother and suggest that doctors are best qualified to make those calls. These are opposing positions but mine is not that of a nasty "liberal Democrat" who will let a mother do whatever she wants to her unborn child. The argument that you and Dan seemed to want to try to make was that Democrats, those nasty baby-killers, want abortions to take place right up to giving birth. Y'all were called on it. It was a somewhat natural position for you to take as the GOP has shaped the argument that way in the bills they devise and the attention and language they bring to the wedge issues they raise. -- Gary "really should be in bed" Denton Easter Lemming Blogs http://elemming.blogspot.com http://elemming2.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
