In a message dated 8/18/2005 12:51:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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> But that seems rather unfair to me. If, going by what you say, the fact
> of Jewish oppression for two millennia on certain continents gives the
> Jews the right to suspect any statement of carrying the seeds of
> anti-semitism, then surely, the fact of peaceful co-existence for two
> millennia on other continents confers an obligation to suspend that
> suspicion. Surely the stand/the standards have to be internally
> consistent at least.
> 
> 
Jews were better tolerated by muslims than by christians. To muslims 
chrisitians and jews were both inferior but they did not see the need to 
persecute 
jews with the same vigors as chriistians. Jews were allowed more freedom but 
whenever it was convenient the muslims would take the jews property and money. 
There were so few jews in the far east that there could be no real problem. As 
I 
said in a post earlier today. Criticism of things jews do is completely 
reaonable but blaming jews (and Israel) is at the heart of anti-semitism. I 
know I 
have come across as a bit over the top on this. I have not been discriminated 
against in any substantive way in my life but this is not about  me it is about 
the current climate in the world. More in Europe but in the US as well. As 
tensions have risin there has been more critiicsm of Israel and a shift away 
from a balanced view of the Israel palistiine problem. There has been an 
increase 
attacks on temples in France. A member of the Noble Prize Committee said he 
was sorry that the Israeli leader (forget which one) had receieved a  Noble 
Peace Prize (for the Olso accords) when things went bad. But he did not say 
that 
he was sorry that Arafat got the prize. How can this be? Arafat had the 
opportunity for peace in 2000 and he turned his back on this. But he deserved 
to 
keep his prize while the Israeli leader did not. Most people simply say that 
atrocities could not happen again but the last attempt to wipe the jews from 
the 
face of the earth was less than 70 years ago. 
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