On 24 Nov 2005, Dan Minette wrote Look at Brin's arguments here. He claims that two generations of Bush's are traitors ... Both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. were tools of Saudi Arabia, and governed the US's foreign policy according to the orders they were given ...
This is not what I remember. It may be that we have seen different stories, since Brin said that he was trying to provoke thinking more than anything else. As I remember, the older Bush was not an issue. The younger Bush was not being bribed but blackmailed: the thesis was that a Saudi prince got something on him before Bush was `born again', probably a photograph during a party -- something that even now would damage him in the eyes of a major constituency. (The ideas are that the constituency does not realize the degree to which photographs can be faked and the Bush people do not think they could lie well about something that actually happened. They certainly would deny a genuinely faked photograph well.) In Middle Eastern dictatorships, the only way to change government has been through conspiracy, so the expectation of a conspiracy makes sense. In an open democracy, it is better to presume that a ruler you dislike has an incompetent admistration or a different policy. The question is whether the US govenment has changed enough so that a conspiracy involving no more than a few people is enough to affect US policy? A second question is whether the Saudi's belief system would lead to the kinds of actions the US has undertaken? On the one hand is the evidence of an increase in petroleum prices. This is especially important if Saudi oil depletion is high -- if they must drill many new wells to keep production rates level or rising. On the other hand, the Saudis would be against a war `fought by the US and won by Iran', which is how some describe the current situation. But perhaps the Saudi government did not expect the situation in which the US finds itself? You could presume that the Saudis expected that the US would fight and continue to fight a colonial war without doing anything to upset them. That would not contradict the notion that Bush did what the Saudis sought originally, but not support it either. However, (to use US military concepts) it is easier to presume that Bush and the rest of the US administration focused ahead of time on stage III of the conflict, which ended in the middle of April 2003, not on stage IV, the follow up. Rather than see order, law, electricity, and the like, as critical military issues requiring more US troops, and rather than note that no contemporary country fights a symmetrical war against the US (since its generals know it will lose), but fights a longer, asymmetrical war instead, they foresaw crowds like those in France and Holland welcoming US soldiers in 1944. They did not consider the practicalities of the occupation. One argument is that the time horizon of critical people in the US administration was short, so in January and February of 2003, when major decisions were made, none thought about May, June, and July of 2003. Another argument is that before March 2003, the responsible people in the US administration modeled their sense of reality on US war movies or Tom Clancy novels -- not necessarily consciously, but in practice -- and made decisions accordingly. -- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l