Charlie Bell wrote:

On 19/04/2006, at 12:53 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote:
  But I have
problems with the 'planned betrayal,' as this makes
Judas a stool pigeon, and God an underhanded schemer.
Indeed, it brings to mind the entire Garden bit as
another planned betrayal.

Precisely. It's yet more of why this "loving god" made less and less sense to me. There's just too much vengeance and sadism ascribed to this deity... just makes no sense. Mind you, neither does much else of it, to me. Not any more.

I personally see it as the inherent flaw in the Judeo-Christian-Muslim religions. I can't understand why people would choose to worship a deity (Yahweh/God/Allah) that punishes with the one hand and simultaneously provides and supports with the other hand. It's why I don't fault the Niceans for coming up with their (somewhat odd) Trinitarian belief: because it is an easy way out when you can claim that the left hand is truly ignorant of the doings of the right (as well as the easiest way to end a debate, by saying: hey, you are all right _at the same time_. 3=1, 1=3, God=devine human son=crazy near-pantheistic voodoo cloud). The soap opera digests that are Polytheism is just so much easier to explain/take in comparison. So what if Odin didn't always know the stupid stuff Thor and Loki were out doing?

As a child, Frankenstein's creature was a horrible
monster who probably deserved to be hunted down and
burned; as an adult, it is Dr. Frankenstein who ought
to be censured for his abandonment of his faulty
creation, once it goes from being lovely to hideous.
It didn't ask to be made thusly.

As a kid I once spent quite a while explaining to someone why Marvel Comics were better morality tales than large parts of the Christian Bible. I also had so many arguments that the Luddite interpretation of Frankenstein was much less meaningful than the Creator abandoning his creation interpretation. It was weird how many adults around me told me I was stupid for siding with the poor creature.

I've often wondered which one was the preferred interpretation of Mary Shelley. Her husband was a notorious Luddite, from what I'm told, and so its easy to see why Frankenstein might be anti-technological, but I always wonder if perhaps Mary Shelley found that sympathy with her creation (by way of the maniac Doctor) and realized that the technology was frightening, but the real morality is in what you _do_ with that technology.


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The Heresy Of Rob Maru

I find myself more a heretic than ever, as I mature.

I started out very heretic, so I'm sometimes afraid there is nowhere to go but less.

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