----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion" <brin-l@mccmedia.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:48 AM Subject: Re: New Anonymous Vid
> Robe wrote: > >> >> I'm not looking at exit polls myself, > > > Looks good for a McCain/Huckster ticket. > > >> I think the actual election >> results are showing a change in the wind. > > > I'm normally an optimist, but the deck is stacked against > progressives. We > all know about Rove and the Swiftboaters. They are masterful at > exploiting > fear and doubt. Corporate America is overwhelmingly Republican and > that > their pocket's are deep. And the press is not only not liberal, > they're > mostly either conservative or willfully ignorant. > > McCain showed a bit of his future strategy recently; he stressed the > idea > that if we leave Iraq we would be losers. He'll repeatedly use the > words > loose and losers when referring to the withdrawal plans of his > opponent. > Along with the reported success of the surge and under reporting on > the part > of the press, the war won't be the issue it should be. The economy > might be > an issue, but here McCain will emphasize his status as an outsider > and will > escape most of the blame. Hell he'll even be able to tell us that > Anne > Coulter and Rush Limbaugh hate him. He'll suck in the lions share of > independent voters. > > There are lots of other factors; older people vote in larger numbers > and are > not only more conservative they're more susceptible to the Bradly > effect. > Although Obama would mobilize younger voters like never before, they > still > won't vote in the numbers necessary to make a difference. If he's > the > nominee then we have the Bradly effect, and if he isn't we'll have > Hillary's > huge negatives to deal with. > > And remember, the war is >> still an issue and that is enough that it can sink McCain if he >> doesn't change his attitude. Even conservatives are tired of this >> crap. > > > I don't think so. I think conservatives still want to win the war > and see > the surge as a huge success. They will play on our dislike for > losing and > our fear of terrorism. They think we need a strong military > presence in the > Middle East, and they think that the strength of our country is due > mostly > to the strength of our military and that losing in Iraq would > undermine our > strength and our reputation. > > Do you remember about this time four years ago when JDG expressed > his > excitement at the inevitable nomination of Kerry? He know that the > Dems had > picked a candidate that could be beaten. Well, I'm guessing that > while he > isn't crazy about McCain, he's ecstatic about the possible > opposition. > > I may be wrong. I hope with all my heart that I'm wrong. But I'm > disparately worried that I'm not. If you think we've got this one > sewn up, > you better think again. > Heh! It's funny.....we are thinking about a lot of the same things and weighing them for consideration. Your concerns mirror mine quite closely. But I think you have to factor in how disheartened many conservatives are these days and it is getting worse for them. Only 2/3 as many Conservatives are voting in the primaries as are Liberals. I think a lot of Independents like Obama. A good sign. But consider a Republican win in November. McCain and Romney doesn't bother me too much as long as the Dems control Congress. McCain and Huckabee is bothersome in the extreme as I have an extreme dislike for Huckabees beliefs. The only one I actively dislike is Huckabee. xponent Constitutional Amendment Maru rob _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
