There are some groups (and congats, you missed my point - I'm talking
about Europe's little issue) who don't, in the large, participate in
the culture of the nation they live in, and indeed detest it.
(Andrew)
You're talking at cross-purposes, you know...
And what you're talking about, Andrew, is self-ghetthoisation. Which is
an issue with nearly every ethnic group moving abroad (even
english-speakers moving to Cyprus, in my experience). Here in Oz, it's
just as much a problem of Chinese, Korean and Viet-Namese as of
Lebanese and Arab groups.
(Charlie)
dark hair and eye color are dominant genetic characteristics, so with
rapid assimilation, us brown folks will eventually replace most blue
eyed blonds...
(Jon)
Yup, and I have nothing against you (except personally, given you're
too rude to use quote).
There are some groups (and congats, you missed my point - I'm talking
about Europe's little issue) who don't, in the large, participate in
the culture of the nation they live in, and indeed detest it.
(Andrew)
He's not too rude, as you'd know if you'd bothered to pay attention.
He tries extremely hard, but he has trouble with understanding the way
e-mail programs quote, and manually quotes every post. If just one of
us lived nearby and could pop round and demonstrate stuff, jon would
find life much easier.
(Charlie)
i've been trying to work out my own time consuming (and jondiced)
system of using quotes, rather than relying on the e-mail program,
which often gets too tangled up for me to decipher... i'm actually
trying to be considerate and use judicious editing to make it easier to
follow the thread.
i was a bit rude, however, by suggesting that andrew's judgmental
attitude sometimes appears to be a bit intolerant. a lot of people, in
the southern u.s. especially, resent how foreigners like to maintain
their own culture rather than assimilate. they tend to resent
americans for treating them as second class citizens (to clean their
houses and mow their lawns, etc.) simply because they weren't born in
america. i didn't miss your point, andrew, i happen to agree with much
of the anti-american sentiment, and i WAS born here.
in my many years of traveling and living abroad, i have observed far
worse ugly american attitudes. we expect everyone to understand and
speak english, and they often do.
jon
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