Just a random collection of thoughts on what i think are the positives of splitting the tours and reducing the events:
The mixed scene would benefit from the top players taking part. It would improve the standard of games and help develop players of both genders at all levels. Whilst the men’s and women’s tour is run at the same time of year as the mixed, less players will participate in one or the other (most likely the mixed). Also the perception is that the mixed game brings more women into ultimate, so if we place a greater emphasis on mixed (i.e. its own time of year) this will eventually bring more women into the women’s tour that will be played alongside the open tour. I think separating the tours would encourage us to play with different people (and abilities) at the mixed events. It would also give a more relaxed introduction to the season, and so give a less strenuous season overall, both physically and mentally (which clearly was problem at worlds). A competitve open season will lead to a higher standard of play, and a higher development rate. If the amount of tours played is less, (three tours and Nationals) there would be room for tour teams to play in open tournaments like the Brit Open, which generally has pick up teams, and in my opinion should be something more like the Coca Cola Cup. An open format will give the lower teams an opportuninty to put themselves up against the best. Less tours would give players an opening to attend tournaments like the Durham Hat for instance. The focus of our attention should be on helping to increase the womens player base in Britain and trying to help the womens tour resemble the open in size (and in the long run standard). Scando Clapham Tom Styles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Not sure this conversation is very constructive. The tours are split already. If the DoC doesn't get the bids for separate tour A and tour B then they can't be run separately. Perhaps if the UKUA receive two bids for the same weekend they could split the tour to see how it goes. However I don't think having too many bids has ever been a big problem for the DoC. The start of this conversation was to do with reducing the number of tours to lessen the strain on the diary. Rob Alpen has wisely suggested that the two tour seasons, mixed and open, be separated. With the mixed season (maybe only 3 events) taking place from April to mid June and the Open season (again only 3 events) taking place from June into July and August. I believe the venue situation will sort itself out, there are standards for tournaments laid out by the UKUA and the price will be controlled to a greater or lesser extent by what people are prepared to pay. (A tournament charging £250 a team would not fill a 32 team tournament no matter how good the facilities.) Is there any more feedback on the 3 event tour idea? Or the separating the seasons idea. This would be more useful than the current argument. Cheers Tom FC#1 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 August 2004 12:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BD] Re: Tour Structure etc >> but if you are really saying that you want the A-Tour to play at different venues >> from the B-Tour because they disturb your concentration or something then that's a >> sad state of affairs. What? I didn't say that. I'm quite happy to defend my point of view, but please don't attribute statements to me that I haven't made. This isn't just directed at Simon either, some of my other critics appear to be making stuff up too. FFS! Jaimie __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp