t reads to me as if the person pulling off the greatest is never technically the thrower because they must have a point of contact to be in possession. So, if there's a contested foul on the next catch it should go back to the one who made the original throw.
This would also mean that should somebody call a pick after the first throw, but before the greatest (or while the person pulling off the greatest has hold of it), it should be a continuation to the catch after the greatest, because it was after the last person deemed a thrower released the disc (ridiculously unlikely, but I thought it'd be worth mentioning!). Or am I being really stupid? It just seems to me that until you have a point of contact, you're not actually in possession. It may as well just be a very clever MAC. Norris (P.S. Sorry for you getting this twice Benji - mucked up sending it the first time...) IndoorsDOC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thick? Wouldn't go so far as that. The rules are worded this way to allow the greatest - you're technically in-bounds until you land out, so you can have possession in the air as long as you get rid of it before you touch out-of-bounds. On the other hand, what happens if a contested foul is called when the greatest is being caught/dropped? Where do you send the disc back to? According to these rules, the 'greatest' player actually had possession, so they must get the disc back, but where? Rules are very heaven for a pedant. Benji At 11:35 12/12/2006, you wrote: >This is marked as new in the rules: > >"17. Possession and Positioning >17.1. A receiver gains possession of the disc and becomes the thrower by >demonstrating sustained contact and control of a non-spinning disc while >they are in-bounds, AND WHEN THEIR FIRST POINT OF CONTACT WHILE STILL IN >POSSESSION OF THE DISC IS NOT OUT-OF-BOUNDS." > >I may be being thick here, but do I interpret this to mean two points of >contact in bounds, or is the second part about catching in the air and >landing with a point of contact in bounds? > >Andy >Bored at work > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of James Melzack >Sent: 12 December 2006 11:07 >To: [email protected] >Subject: [BD] Re: 2007 WFDF rules > >I missed out... > >- We now have Callahan goals (14.1): If you intercept and catch a disc >in the endzone you're attacking it's an immediate goal. > >- Spirit of the game is no longer rule # 1 > >- Wrapping your arms around the thrower while having one disc distance >between your arms and the upper body of the thrower seems ok according >to the new rules. In my opinion this is a change to rules: The old rule >404.11.3 was "When guarding the thrower, the marker cannot position his >or her arms in such a manner as to restrict the thrower from pivoting". > >(Thanks Buddha), >-Chef > >On 12/12/06, James Melzack wrote: > > > > Hey All, > > > > The 2007 World Flying Disc Federation rules draft has just been >published. > > http://wfdf.org/rules/20061201_WFDF_2007_Rules.pdf > > (changes from the 2006 version appear in red) > > > > Should you feel the need to comment upon these rules you can do so >here: > > http://groups.google.com/group/wfdf-2007-rules > > > > Most noteable changes are: > > 10.3 - putting the disc into play - disc must be put in play within 15 > > > seconds of a turnover (25 if it went out of bounds). > > 18.4.1.3 - fast stall counts - if a fast stall count is called after > > 10 is reached then disc is put in play at stall count 9. > > 18.5.2 - picks - stall count no longer goes back 2 after a pick has > > been resolved. > > 19.2.1 - fouls - stall count now goes back to 6 if it was above 6 (was > > > previously 5). > > > > > > -Chef > > >__________________________________________________ >BritDisc mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp >____________________________________________________________ >Electronic mail messages entering and leaving Arup business >systems are scanned for acceptability of content and viruses > >__________________________________________________ >BritDisc mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp --------------------------------- Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp
