To me certification and a code of ethics are some what
different topics.
If one wishes to be a professional then subscribing to
a code of ethics is mandatory. Certainly as part of the code of ethics one
should be required to have the appropriate certification to provide assurance
they have the necessary technical knowledge. For me if I took an exam that
included questions on code of ethic matters I would feel I was applying to a
professional body. Technical questions only would suggest to me that I was
proving my knowledge for a technical certificate. To me there would be no
problem in being required to supply a professional body with proof of my
technical competency and requiring me to comply with a code of
ethics.
Effectively most professional organisations use this
model - usually they require graduation from an approved course or if you
will certification and then they require you to subscribe to their code of
ethics but, this should be from the national or local IT Professionals
Association which presumably has a code of ethics. Globally a code of
ethics may not work well although a grouping of national IT professional
Associations certainly could establish guilders on a code of ethics as part of a
mutual recognition of each others professionals.
Norm Ryder
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Subject: Re: [BSDCert] code of ethics
I'm here for the job of the certification, not for creating a religion or start judging other IT professionals. I love BSD, but who are we to do such a thing?
If we are going this way, I think I'll start looking for something else, sorry.
Also: each country has it owns costumns/habits (what's the right word here?) and they work on different ways. For example: it's commom to give a gift for someone on Japan after doing business, even if you are in government. In Brazil it would look like corruption or "personal favors".
So, creating such a code would be hard and exaustive, plus the job of controlling people, checking acusations against a professional. It could also be used to "mark" a professional ("hey, you know Mike from IT? He has already been on an ethics comittee who found him guilty! Oh, really? Let's fire his ass off!") even by it's older employeer, who could acuse him of something just because he's pissed off.
Sorry, I'm against it in all ways.
I believe there should be a code, for sure, but not only for us, this should come from the IT Professionals Association of each country.
On 9/7/05, patrick
coeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
Hmmm,
I was thinking BSD was a operating system. If I read some of the info on
the links you give and you wish to adopt these for BSD cert it is more a
'belief' or a some church or so. I don't see what this has to do for a
OS certification.
Just my 2 €cent...
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>Two questions for the list:
>
>1. Do you guys think there is any value to employers if testing candidates are required to adhere to a "code of ethics"? Would it help deal with the misperception that Open Source is not well structured? Or is it just so much fluff?
>
>2. If there were to be a "BSD Administrator's Code of Ethics", what should be in it?
>
>Here are some other organization's codes of ethics to get us started:
>
>CISSP: https://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?category=12
>
>SAGE: http://www.sage.org/ethics.mm
>
>ACM: http://www.acm.org/constitution/code.html
>
>IEEE: http://www.ieee.org/portal/site/mainsite/menuitem.818c0c39e85ef176fb2275875bac26c8/index.jsp?&pName=corp_level1&path=about/whatis&file=code.xml&xsl=generic.xsl;jsessionid=DpgDH6m8VnJX1JpL85DpZNpm3cMklCvtGJW32vJfx2RvkhFwp3v1!-1349364154
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>And a general guide to writing a code of ethics:
>
>http://www.ethicsweb.ca/codes/
>
>Dru
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