I suggested some time ago that very large data sets shouldn't be displayed
at all, since they are not only slow, they are also largely useless in an
interactive session.

It was decided that this approach would not be taken, but I don't remember
the justification for it.

Regards,
Elias


On 9 July 2014 10:58, Blake McBride <blake1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the layout function need two modifications:
>
> 1.  enable ^C
>
> 2.  at least for large data, output as you go rather than format the whole
> thing and then output the whole thing
>
> --blake
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Elias Mårtenson <loke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is already the SIGINT signal which is processed by GNU APL to
>> interrupt a function execution. However, this interruptability is not
>> extended to the layout function.
>>
>>
>> On 9 July 2014 09:09, Peter Teeson <peter.tee...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In Sharp APL (IPSA) we had a "panic int" which interrupted whatever was
>>> being computed after a predetermined time.
>>> It was inherent to the interpreter because we ran a timesharing system.
>>> I don't recall the exact details but it went something like this;
>>>
>>> 1) Workspace gets swapped in for execution and is given a quantum of CPU
>>> time
>>> 2) At the end of that quantum a second but quite small (relative to the
>>> normal ) additional amount of CPU was allocated
>>>  to see if that would allow an interrupt at a "suitable" point in the
>>> function/operation that was going on.
>>> 3) If that extra time was not sufficient the workspace was arbitrarily
>>> interrupted and AFAICR the user got )CLEAR WS.
>>>
>>> That's probably not exactly correct (I never read the actual assembly
>>> code for that part of the interpreter).
>>> But the idea worked for us.
>>>
>>> On a single user system there is no real need for a specific quantum;
>>> the OS takes care of  scheduling.
>>> But perhaps a "panic int" concept in some form or other might be useful?
>>> Perhaps allowing the user to decide if they want to continue?
>>> Perhaps with a default value? Perhaps assignable by the user?
>>>
>>> respect…
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 2014-07-08, at 1:50 PM, Blake McBride <blake1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > If I do:
>>> >
>>> >       z←⍳1000000
>>> >
>>> > the operation is very fast.  But if I do:
>>> >
>>> >       ⍳1000000
>>> >
>>> > it is very slow, presumably because it is formatting the whole thing
>>> for display.  No problem.
>>> >
>>> > The problem is that during its effort to format for display, I cannot
>>> use ^C.  ^C appears to work fine in normal situations - but not during the
>>> format for display time.  During format-for-display time ^C is ignored.
>>> >
>>> > This caused me a problem when I accidentally mis-typed something.  The
>>> mis-type caused something very large to be displayed.  In fact, it was so
>>> large that my machine started paging.  I was unable to use ^C to stop it.
>>>  After waiting an hour, I had to kill the process and loose my work.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > Blake
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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