On Mon, 11 Dec 2023, 05:19 Chet Ramey, <chet.ra...@case.edu> wrote: > On 11/30/23 5:18 AM, Martin D Kealey wrote: > > > If there's a bug tracking system beyond "threads in a mailing list", I'd > > like to know how I can get access to it. > > https://savannah.gnu.org/support/?group=bash
That's a good start, but it seems incomplete, and there's little -- perhaps no -- overlap with bug reports in this list. Has bashbug always sent email to bug-bash@gnu.org, or was it previously fed into Savannah? Savannah seems too simplistic, as it ignores what happens after code is written, and fails to distinguish other important steps. (Among other things: it lacks a field for "intended release" and lacks numerous status options including "awaiting design review", "awaiting code review", "ready for release", & "release scheduled"; there's no link between bug reports and the source repo (so management of pull requests); and it doesn't have any form of continuous testing or integration.) And of course, it's disconnected from this mailing list. Perhaps bug tracking could be migrated to a more modern system? I know that (for good reason) GNU projects won't use proprietary services like Bitbucket or Github, but perhaps Bugtraq or Gitlab would be acceptable, or maybe some other project management tool? Aside from the shortcomings of Savannah itself, I'm concerned that bug reports in Savannah can only be assigned to three people, two of whom have been inactive for years. (I'm guessing they're the same people who can update bugs.) Are we building a cathedral with gatekeepers, or a bazaar where the masses can contribute? -Martin PS: bashbug announces «Bashbug is used to send mail to the Bash maintainers», and then addresses the message to *this* mailing list. I read that as "this list is only for maintainers". (And yes, I distinguish between subscribers, who receive messages from the list, and submitters, who send messages to the list.) Somewhere along the line this list has ceased to fulfil that role, instead becoming an informal bash testers list, while the actual bash-test...@cwru.edu list doesn't rate a mention here, and moreover attempting to subscribe by sending to bash-testers-requ...@cwru.edu bounces (550 5.1.1 User unknown). If the testers list is elsewhere, bashbug needs updating.