How can you expect people to debug something without posting the
problematic code?

On Sun, 09 Nov 2025 05:59:33 -0700, Stan Marsh wrote:
  "Yes, this would all be easier if I made it into a standalone script
instead of a function, but it is what it is and it won't be changed."

  Putting the code in a separate script would aid in debugging, since there
would be a clear boundary between which code might be executing and which
code is certain not to have executed.

  This idea seems obvious, but perhaps there's an issue in a for loop. Have
you tried `kcov`?

Wiley


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> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2025 05:59:33 -0700
> From: Stan Marsh <[email protected]>
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> Subject: Problems with running in non-monitor mode
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> (Yes, I had a bit of a hard time coming up with a Subject: title)
>
> And, yes, this is going to be short on "How to reproduce", because I can't
> really tell
> when/where it goes wrong and I don't really think I have the necessary
> tools to debug it.
> It also falls into the category of "Very few people ever run interactively
> with job
> control turned off, so this part of the code doesn't get exercised much,
> so bugs don't get
> found".
>
> That said, as I described in a previous post (either on bug-bash or
> help-bash, not sure
> which), I have a (rather long and complex) shell function that needs to
> run with job
> control turned off.  Yes, this would all be easier if I made it into a
> standalone script
> instead of a function, but it is what it is and it won't be changed.
>
> Bash version is 5.3 and the platform is 32 bit Raspberry Pi.
>
> In the function, I do: set +m and I have traps setup so that on exit, it
> does: set -m
>
> It all works fine until it (occasionally) stops working fine.  After the
> function has
> exited back to the shell, I find I notice a bunch of weird behaviors in
> the shell, such as
> the keyboard freezing (until I hit ^C) and commands not doing anything
> (e.g., I type in
> "top" and it just returns to the prompt (see below)).
>
> The eventual fix is to do: exec $BASH, which re-initializes the shell and
> things start
> working again.
>
> And here's the really weird part.  First note, I have "j" aliased to "jobs
> -l".
> See below; the output of "j" is really weird. It is not possible that I
> have
> started up 1780+ background jobs... (In fact, I haven't started *any*
> background
> jobs in this shell). But it looks like something in the function is
> filling up
> the jobs table and there doesn't seem to be any way to clean it out.
>
> --- Cut Here ---
>  $ j
> [1783]-  6439 Stopped (tty output)       continue
> [1784]   6490 Done                       top
> [1785]+  6495 Done                       top
>  $ j
> [1783]-  6439 Stopped (tty output)       continue
> [1784]   6490 Done                       top
> [1785]+  6495 Done                       top
>  $ %1783
> continue
>  $ j
> [1784]   6490 Done                       top
> [1785]   6495 Done                       top
>  $ %1784
> bash53: fg: job has terminated
> Status: 1
>  $ j
> [1784]   6490 Done                       top
> [1785]   6495 Done                       top
>  $ j
> [1784]   6490 Done                       top
> [1785]   6495 Done                       top
>  $ exec $BASH
>  ...
> --- Cut Here ---
>
> Anyway, I am hoping that someone who has access to better debugging
> tools than I do can figure out what is going on. It seems to be related
> to running with job control turned off, but I can't be sure of that.
> Note that I cannot post the actual function, as it is too complicated
> and depends on too many things to be of use to anyone else. Sorry about
> that.
>
> Note that I am not really looking for "fix this problem for me before 5PM"
> type
> help. I already have what seems like the only workable workaround
> (re-exec'ing
> the shell), but I am posting in the hope that some improvements can be
> made in
> the shell's code.
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