'ls', by default for root, comes '-A' - which ignores '.' and 'chgrp' should also have a similar '-A' flag available to it.
You probobly have some aliases set when you are root, check with the command `alias' if you are using bash. _______________________________________________ Bug-coreutils mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils