On Mon, 2025-08-25 at 15:20 -0700, Paul Eggert wrote: > > > > Are you inclined to accept the time format of ISO 8601 for the display of > > UTC - or no? > > We should not change the behavior of plain 'date -u' based on any > arguments presented so far in this thread. The current behavior is > longstanding, documented, required by POSIX, and plenty of people > undoubtedly depend on it. >
Your definition of "longstanding" seems a bit disingenuous, since this change, from the default POSIX `date -u` 24 hour format to the 12 hour format, was made in 2020, 5 years ago, while the GNU shellutils package was announced in 1991, 21 years prior to this change to the time format. And then, to say "undoubtedly depend" is to presume a conclusion, with no evidence whatsoever. As was reiterated by Martin, and admitted, UTC *itself* has nothing to do with time zones. James