On Mon, 2025-08-25 at 15:20 -0700, Paul Eggert wrote:
> > 
> > Are you inclined to accept the time format of ISO 8601 for the display of 
> > UTC - or no?
> 
> We should not change the behavior of plain 'date -u' based on any 
> arguments presented so far in this thread. The current behavior is 
> longstanding, documented, required by POSIX, and plenty of people 
> undoubtedly depend on it.
> 

Your definition of "longstanding" seems a bit disingenuous, since this change, 
from the default POSIX `date -u` 24 hour format to the 12 hour format, was made 
in 2020, 5 years ago, while the GNU shellutils package was announced in 1991, 
21 years prior to this change to the time format.  And then, to say 
"undoubtedly depend" is to presume a conclusion, with no evidence whatsoever.  
As was reiterated by Martin, and admitted, UTC *itself* has nothing to do with 
time zones.

James



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