Hi there, Well, I am quite new to Linux, but basically I know how chgrp should work. I noticed a bug (?), its a minor defect. Let's have a file named "somefile". It is created by root so it is owned by root, and its group membership is root (I am in windows now, so I cannot easily give you exactly what ls command returns, but it says what I said - owner=group="root"). Then I login as an ordinary user "mlodek". I change to the directory where "somefile" file resides and try to change its group to my basic group named mlodek: chgrp mlodek somefile It fails, and this is OK, but the message is: chgrp: you are not a member of group 'mlodek': Operation not permitted Well, I am a member of mlodek (I issued groups command to make sure %*), but it should have displayed something like: chgrp: you are not a member of group 'root': Operation not permitted (root group instead of mlodek group) The same message appears if chgrp is applied to a directory, not an ordinary file. I think that somebody must have already told you about it, but I thought that it would be better to write this mail. Or maybe I don't understand something, so tell me, and I'll search for the reason why chgrp displays such a message. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for the great software you give to the folks. Regards, Piotr "Lodek" Hosowicz Piotr Hosowicz ---------------------------------- Zajrzyj na moją stronę z freewarem: http://www.mcsoft.stopklatka.pl