Unless I'm mistaken (believe me, it's a strong possibility :), there is little point to the -z option to overwrite a shredded file with zeroes "to hide shredding". Surely, if you cannot hide normal data with a zero pass, you cannot hide the shredding pattern with a zero pass? Is this just adding another layer of difficulty for the person retrieving the data (making shredded data less immediately obvious)? If so, then I think that something should be mentioned in the documentation saying that this will not actually prevent somebody from telling if you have shredded something (after all, stupid laws about encryption might extend to shredding in the future). Jim _______________________________________________ Bug-fileutils mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-fileutils