H.J. > Is there a way to increment the time for n seconds? I am thinking something like > > # touch -F n foo > > which will increment the time by n seconds and > > # touch -B n foo > > which will decrement the time by n seconds. When you say increment, do you mean of the clock time or of the file timestamp time? I will assume you mean filestamp time. And of course I am curious as to your application for this. Since you suggested incrementing and decrementing by seconds I assume seconds as well. But check out the date string parsing capability of both date and touch for more ideas. You can do some very fun things using GNU extensions. Try these. Every time this command sequence is called it will increment the timestamp of the file. oldstamp=$(date -r foo +%s) newstamp=$(expr $oldstamp + 10) newtime=$(date -u -d "1970-01-01 $newstamp sec UTC") touch --date="$newtime" foo And of course the entire thing can be compressed into one line. touch --date="$(date -u -d "1970-01-01 $(expr $(date -r foo +%s) + 10) sec UTC")" foo Hmm... It would be convenient to be able to combine date -r with date --time and do a super case of what you want. This would read much more simply. But that currently is not available. touch --date="$(date -r foo --date='10 seconds')" # does not work Also, make sure you have a recent version of date. There have been several bugs in the date code fixed just before Y2K. ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/fetish/sh-utils-2.0.11.tar.gz Bob _______________________________________________ Bug-fileutils mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-fileutils