Thanks Joseph! I did indeed find a bug in my implementation. Thanks for the help!
On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Joseph Heled wrote: > Thanks for all of you who chipped in! > > Playing a 1 point match at 0 ply, gnubg won 7193 of 10000 matches, > which is 0.4386 ppg in my book. > Playing 10000 money sessions (gammons count, no cube) gnubg got 0.6296 > ppg (the breakdown is 4504, 2298, 285 2202, 676, 35 ) > > -Joseph > > On 20 January 2012 06:16, Nikos Papahristou <nikp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> My evaluations of a starting roll 3-1 are exactly the same with Mark. >> Joseph, my implementation of pubeval doesn't agree with the moves >> selection in the games you sent. >> In the first game, the first roll of pubeval (4-5) is played as 24/15, >> and in the second game the first roll (52) is played as 13/8, 13/11. >> >> Nikos >> >> On 19/1/2012 17:14 μμ, Mark Higgins wrote: >>> I get something different for a 3-1 off the starting board. Sorry for >>> the non-standard format but hopefully it's intelligible. 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I >>>> am worried that 8-5 6-5 sneaks at number 6 >>>> >>>> score gnubg id position >>>> 8.00384996831 4HPwATDgc/ABIQ (0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0, 5, 0, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 7.83777993917 4HPwATDEc/ABKA (0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0, 4, 0, 0, 1, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 7.81063996255 4HPwATDgc/ABEg (0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0, 5, 0, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 7.75730997324 4HPwATDgc+IBKA (0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 4, >>>> -5, 0, 1, 0, 3, 0, 5, 0, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 7.43968993425 4HPwATDQZ/ABKA (0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 2, 0, 5, 1, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 6.84054994583 4HPwATCwZ/ABMA (0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 2, 0, 4, 2, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 6.81688992679 4HPwATDga/ABIg (0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 2, 1, 5, 0, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 6.67967991531 4HPwATDQc/ABIg (0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0, 4, 1, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 6.67962995172 4HPwATDCc/ABMA (0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0, 4, 0, 0, 0, 1, -2, 0) >>>> 6.24834996462 4HPwATDIZ/ABMA (0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 2, 0, 5, 0, 1, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 6.10885995626 4HPwATDgc+EBMA (0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 4, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 1, 3, 0, 5, 0, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 4.3719098568 4HPwATDEa/ABMA (0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 2, 1, 4, 0, 0, 1, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 4.29143989086 4HPwATDga+IBMA (0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 4, >>>> -5, 0, 1, 0, 2, 1, 5, 0, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 4.23469984531 4HPwATCkc/ABMA (0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0, 3, 1, 0, 1, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 4.15422987938 4HPwATDQc+IBMA (0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 4, >>>> -5, 0, 1, 0, 3, 0, 4, 1, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> 3.22565984726 4HPwATDQV/ABMA (0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, -5, 0, -3, 0, 0, 0, 5, >>>> -5, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 5, 1, 0, 0, 0, -2, 0) >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20 January 2012 03:45, Mark Higgins <migg...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:migg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> :) I'll give it a try and check the couple games you sent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Joseph Heled wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was asking for help, not for more work. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, anyone who implemented play against pubeval can check a >>>>>> few of the moves I sent. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Joseph >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20 January 2012 03:35, Mark Higgins <migg...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:migg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> I used the following post to define pubeval; is this the proper >>>>>>> definition still: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.bkgm.com/rgb/rgb.cgi?view+610 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Joseph Heled wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just run 10000 1 point match games between gnubg and pubeval. I >>>>>>>> think this is the most fair, since there are no gammons of cubes >>>>>>>> involved. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, gnubg won 9840 of those, which makes me think something >>>>>>>> is wrong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can someone help me verify that pubeval makes the "right" moves? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can send a few games in oldmoves format, or can check specific >>>>>>>> moves. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am attaching 2 games as examples. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Joseph >>>>>>>> <game1.fibs><game2.fibs> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
