It's just a bot - it won't be insulted if you make it roll over when it
gets a particularly good roll.  And similarly you can try again when you
get an especially bad roll.  And if you're curious about how things would
have gone after a particular roll, you can go back and use Edit to specify
that roll.

People seem to be reluctant to do this because they consider it cheating.
You be the judge - to me it greatly improves everything about the
experience of playing against a computer.

But don't overdo it - you want to have SOME experience handling bad
positions.

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> From: Barb Pylatuk <[email protected]>
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> Subject: [Bug-gnubg] Gnu backgammon
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> This is the most frustrating game!  Whenever I am winning, gnu
> automatically starts hitting all my men all the time.  If I am losing
> and waiting to get on the board, gnu manages to clear all its men so
> that I can only get on at 4. Then, once I am on at 4 my rolls are
> double ones or one and three or some other nonsense so that I
> am guaranteed to lose.  Similarily, if I have gnu cornered it will roll
> doubles so it will get clear across the board on to its own side. The
> game is rigged to win. If I do win a game, and start another game it
> starts again to hit all my men all the time. If it is a close match and
> we are rolling to remove our men from the board, gnu is rolling doubles
> continually until it is off the board.
>
> I don't know why I keep playing.  I do not want to win every game but I
> certainly would expect a fair  chance.  Gnu does not offer that.
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 15:33:48 -0600
> From: Michael Petch <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Gnu backgammon
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> On 2015-05-18 1:33 PM, Barb Pylatuk wrote:
> > The
> > game is rigged to win. If I do win a game, and start another game it
> > starts again to hit all my men all the time. If it is a close match and
> > we are rolling to remove our men from the board, gnu is rolling doubles
> > continually until it is off the board.
> >
> > I don't know why I keep playing.  I do not want to win every game but I
> > certainly would expect a fair  chance.  Gnu does not offer that.
> >
>
> Thanks for letting us know our neural network in the current release is
> working so well!
>
> --
> Michael Petch
> GNU Backgammon Maintainer / Developer
> OpenPGP FingerPrint=D81C 6A0D 987E 7DA5 3219 6715 466A 2ACE 5CAE 3304
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 15:11:51 -0700
> From: David Bellows <[email protected]>
> To: Barb Pylatuk <[email protected]>
> Cc: gnubg-list <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Gnu backgammon
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> It could be that it is a better player than you realize. Do you have a
> match you can send us that demonstrates what you are claiming?
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Barb Pylatuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > This is the most frustrating game!  Whenever I am winning, gnu
> > automatically starts hitting all my men all the time.  If I am losing
> > and waiting to get on the board, gnu manages to clear all its men so
> > that I can only get on at 4. Then, once I am on at 4 my rolls are
> > double ones or one and three or some other nonsense so that I
> > am guaranteed to lose.  Similarily, if I have gnu cornered it will roll
> > doubles so it will get clear across the board on to its own side. The
> > game is rigged to win. If I do win a game, and start another game it
> > starts again to hit all my men all the time. If it is a close match and
> > we are rolling to remove our men from the board, gnu is rolling doubles
> > continually until it is off the board.
> >
> > I don't know why I keep playing.  I do not want to win every game but I
> > certainly would expect a fair  chance.  Gnu does not offer that.
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 08:59:56 +0000
> From: Ian Shaw <[email protected]>
> To: Barb Pylatuk <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
>         <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Gnu backgammon
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> Hi Bard,
>
> I'm afraid gnubg does not cheat, so if you are losing a lot, it's because
> of your mistakes!
>
> If you need to convince yourself that gnubg does not cheat, try two things
> in Settings, Options, Dice:
> 1) Play with manual dice, so that you enter the rolls yourself.
> 2) Set the seed for the random number generator to the same value (e.g.
> 1). You will see that the rolls follow a defined pattern, whatever the
> position. This proves that gnubg does not change the rolls to give itself
> good numbers and you bad ones. It will also always make the same move for a
> given position, which proves it does not take account of upcoming rolls.
>
> I hope you overcome the frustration and grow to love gnu backgammon. It's
> a great tool for improving your game. I didn't realise how bad I was at
> backgammon until I started playing a really good opponent.
>
> Try playing with the tutor mode on; see how often gnubg disagrees with
> your choice.
>
> Regards,
> Ian Shaw
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Barb
> Pylatuk
> Sent: 18 May 2015 20:34
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Bug-gnubg] Gnu backgammon
>
> This is the most frustrating game!  Whenever I am winning, gnu
> automatically starts hitting all my men all the time.  If I am losing and
> waiting to get on the board, gnu manages to clear all its men so that I can
> only get on at 4. Then, once I am on at 4 my rolls are double ones or one
> and three or some other nonsense so that I am guaranteed to lose.
> Similarily, if I have gnu cornered it will roll doubles so it will get
> clear across the board on to its own side. The game is rigged to win. If I
> do win a game, and start another game it starts again to hit all my men all
> the time. If it is a close match and we are rolling to remove our men from
> the board, gnu is rolling doubles continually until it is off the board.
>
> I don't know why I keep playing.  I do not want to win every game but I
> certainly would expect a fair  chance.  Gnu does not offer that.
>
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