On Sat, Aug 1, 2026 at 5:22 PM Alejandro Colomar <[email protected]> wrote:
> WG14, like WG21, has a problem. Consensus, these days, is taken as > roughly a majority of votes. > > With very few exceptions, here's the rule that guides consensus in straw > polls during committee meetings: > > // Consensus requires both > // y/(y+n) >= 2/3 > // n/(y+n+a) <= 1/4 > That formula seems to require a bit more than, as you put it, "roughly a majority of votes", but whatever. > Strong opposition is dismissed as long as the numbers are okay. Strong opposition seems to exist for your proposed man page changes, yet you are still pushing them. Is it magically not a problem when it is something you want? > Nevin has an undeclared conflict of interest: He is the author of a > proposal for WG14 to remove strncpy(3). > <https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n3935.htm> > Yes, the paper represents my technical opinion on strncpy. Writing a publicly accessible paper is pretty much the opposite of "undeclared". As for a conflict of interest (instead of just, say, an interest in): > Also, he didn't really give any technical reasons; he just voted no. > What I wrote in the "[PATCH 1/2] man/man3/{mem,strn}*(): SYNOPSIS, STANDARDS: Document these as provided by <memory.h>" thread (adding the context for that message in between the square brackets): As a WG14 member, it's none of my business what a particular project wants to do with its documentation. That really is between them and their users. >From my "just some person on the Internet" perspective, I agree with Joseph Myers [in that I agree it's irresponsible to use the man-pages project to promote personal idiosyncratic ideas like this in preference to what's been the standard location of functions since 1989]. I stated my opinion, but I don't see where I voted for or against anything. I wasn't aware I even had a vote here (and I'm still not aware that I do). > A vote without reasons is still heard, but easily dismissed. > If you just wanted to easily dismiss my opinion, why did you Cc me in the first place? And I still don't know what vote you are talking about. Since apparently I have to declare this: I am not a part of the projects encompassing linux-man, bug-gnulib or libc-alpha (I think that covers all the mailing lists you sent this to so far). Feel free to weigh my comments accordingly (or not, because again, I'm not a part of those organizations). -- Nevin ":-)" Liber <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>> +1-847-691-1404
