On 4 Feb 2010, at 14:49, Peter O'Gorman wrote:
What does otool -L
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/guile say? Which
libltdl.7.dylib does it list?
See below. They differ: libltdl.7.dylib current versions 10.0.0 and
10.1.0.
If you run lilypond with DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES=1 set in the environment
does more than one copy of libltdl.7.dylib get loaded?
It just tries to load the one in /usr/local/lib/, which causes
segmentation fault.
This sounds like a packaging bug to me though, ...
Part if it, at least. There is no point searching for incompatible
libraries.
...you can probably fix it
with use of install_name_tool(1).
I can pass it on - I'm not a LilyPond developer.
As for your earlier questions about .so and .dylib - On Mac OS X 10.0
and earlier, there was no way to load MH_DYLIB type files (usually
.dylib extensions) at runtime. API was introduced to allow this in
10.1,
and dlopen() was added in 10.3, rewritten in 10.4 and dlclose()
actually
removes the image in 10.5, prior to that only files of MH_BUNDLE type
could be unloaded.
When libtool support for Mac OS X was added, there was no way to load
.dylib files, not much software had any knowledge of Mac OS X, and
quite
a lot of things had hardcoded ".so" when loading files at runtime,
so to
accomodate this, .so was chosen as the extension when creating
loadable
modules (MH_BUNDLE) and .dylib when creating MH_DYLIB. Changing
this now would cause far too many problems.
Not really: 10.4 and earlier are obsolete, and 10.5 is becoming. On
10.5, just ordinary load is fine.
So just add .dylib to the list of searches.
So, long story short, ltld looks for ".so" because that is the
extension
used for loadable modules.
Well, that is not a part of the UNIX standard, and therefore not
POSIX, which is nowadays a subset.
Guile wants to use its loadable modules as
input to ld, this is not portable to ancient Mac OS X, nor ancient Net
BSD, and possibly other systems, however it seems unlikly to be a
major
issue.
I think that covers most of the thread, but I admit to now reading all
of it.
If it can't load .dylib files, which now is the normal use, that is a
bit confusing.
Hans
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# otool -L /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/guile
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/guile:
@executable_path/../lib//libguile.17.dylib (compatibility version
21.0.0, current version 21.1.0)
@executable_path/../lib//libintl.8.dylib (compatibility version
9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
/usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current
version 5.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 71.1.3)
@executable_path/../lib//libgmp.3.dylib (compatibility version 8.0.0,
current version 8.1.0)
@executable_path/../lib//libltdl.7.dylib (compatibility version
10.0.0, current version 10.0.0)
/usr/lib/libmx.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version
47.1.0)
# otool -L /usr/local/bin/guile
/usr/local/bin/guile:
/usr/local/lib/libguile.17.dylib (compatibility version 21.0.0,
current version 21.1.0)
/usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current
version 7.0.0)
/usr/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current
version 9.2.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 111.1.4)
/usr/local/lib/libgmp.3.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current
version 9.0.0)
/usr/local/lib/libltdl.7.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current
version 10.1.0)
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 1.0.0)
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$ lilypond empty.ly
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libintl.8.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libguile.17.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libgmp.3.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libpango-1.0.0.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libfreetype.6.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libfontconfig.1.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libgobject-2.0.0.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libglib-2.0.0.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libmx.A.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/
Versions/A/CoreFoundation
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libauto.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libltdl.7.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib
dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../
lib//libexpat.1.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Carbon
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/CarbonSound.framework/Versions/A/CarbonSound
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/HTMLRendering.framework/Versions/A/HTMLRendering
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/NavigationServices.framework/Versions/A/NavigationServices
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/
Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/ApplicationServices
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/
Versions/A/CoreServices
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/
A/CoreAudio
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/
DictionaryServices
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/
IOKit
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/DiskArbitration.framework/
Versions/A/DiskArbitration
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libbsm.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/
Security
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/
Versions/A/SystemConfiguration
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libsqlite3.0.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libxslt.1.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/
C/Foundation
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/
SpeechSynthesis
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/
A/Accelerate
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/
A/Frameworks/vImage.framework/Versions/A/vImage
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/
A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/vecLib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/
A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvMisc.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/
A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvDSP.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/
A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libBLAS.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/
A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libLAPACK.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/
libJPEG.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/
libTIFF.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/
libGIF.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/
libPng.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/
Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/
libRadiance.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Kerberos.framework/Versions/A/
Kerberos
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreUI.framework/
Versions/A/CoreUI
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/
A/QuartzCore
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/
DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/DesktopServicesPriv
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/
OpenGL
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/
Libraries/libGLImage.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libffi.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreVideo.framework/Versions/
A/CoreVideo
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/
Libraries/libGLU.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/
Libraries/libGL.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/
Libraries/libGLProgrammability.dylib
dyld: loaded: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/
InstallServer.framework/Versions/A/InstallServer
GNU LilyPond 2.13.7
dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3.3.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libguile.17.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libgmp.3.dylib
dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libltdl.7.dylib
Segmentation fault
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