Hi,

Tangential of bug#65787 [1], the annoyance is the order of the updates.
It leads to poor messages.  Let exemplify at the extreme case.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix describe
Generation 28   sept. 06 2023 14:54:50  (current)
  guix 6113e05
    repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
    commit: 6113e0529d61df7425f64e30a6bf77f7cfdfe5a5

$ rm -fr 
~/.cache/guix/checkouts/pjmkglp4t7znuugeurpurzikxq3tnlaywmisyr27shj7apsnalwq

$ guix time-machine -q --commit=6113e05 -- describe
receiving objects   2% ▕█▋
    …some time flies…
indexing objects  21% ▕███████████████████████                                  
                                                     ▏
    …some time flies…
Updating channel 'guix' from Git repository at 
'https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git'...
   …instant…
Computing Guix derivation for 'x86_64-linux'... \
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The reason is because the logic:

        (when (procedure? validate-channels)
          (validate-channels channels))
        (run-with-store store
          (mlet* %store-monad ((instances
                                -> (latest-channel-instances store channels
                                                             #:authenticate?
                                                             authenticate?))

where ’validate-channels’ (validate-guix-channel) reads,

                (checkout commit relation (update-cached-checkout
                                           (channel-url guix-channel)
                                           #:ref reference
                                           #:starting-commit
                                           %oldest-possible-commit)))

and ’latest-channel-instances’ which is the ones that displays,

                     (format (current-error-port)
                             (G_ "Updating channel '~a' from Git repository at 
'~a'...~%")
                             (channel-name channel)
                             (channel-url channel))


this ’latest-channel-instances’ reads under the hood,

               ((checkout commit relation)
                (update-cached-checkout (channel-url channel)
                                        #:ref (channel-reference channel)
                                        #:starting-commit starting-commit)))


Why not move this ’validate-guix-channel’ to internals.  Somehow, it is
in guix/scripts/ because it captures ’ref’.  However, this capture is
redundant and is normally managed by ’channel-list’.  Therefore, I would
be tempted to have this validation for the reachable commit close to the
“Updating” message.

WDYT?

Cheers,
simon


1: <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/65787>



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