Am 03.08.2013 13:44, schrieb bb:
Am 03.08.2013 08:42, schrieb Federico Bruni:
2013/7/13 Steve Burgondy <steve.burgo...@gmail.com>
Hello,
Proportional spacing can be of great help to understand music and to
associate "visual space" to "time space". It can be useful for
beginners,
but also in general. It is very important in tablatures, especially
when
full tab notation is not used.
Currently in Lilypond, if we want to have an accurate "visual space"
representation in the specific case of "swing music", it is required to
enter music in 12/8 mode (this implies dotted notes and so on).
Has anyone thought of implementing "swing spacing" with a 4/4 mode
notation?
Would this be hard to achieve?
Hi Steve
AFAICS nobody replied to your questions.
I'm not a developer so I cannot say if this can be achieved or not
(but I
have a feeling that it's not easy for sure).
I'm putting the bug-lilypond list in CC.
There's an analog issue with sound (MIDI):
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=687
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Mayy be I misunderstand your question?
But have you tried
proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 32)
I found it needs a high number (here 32) to work proper with "short
notes" and "pointed short notes". I found the music print becomes
longer (broader) with rising number.
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In ternary/triplet Music like Blues, Swing and Boogie the accent is on
the 2 and 4. (whereas Classic, Latin, Rock and Folk do have the accent
on beat 1 and 3. I found that topic interesting for me as well (for
blues notation) and did some experiments with possible notations. Some I
have seen in sheet music, not musically perfect. The second line is an
example of Gershwin " I Got Rhythm ", the first two bars :
\version "2.16.2"
\paper {
indent = 0
line-width = #100
tagline = ##f
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-permission = ##f
proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 32)
}
}
\header {
title = "possible swing notation "
composer = "last Line Gershwin: I Got Rhythm "
\newline
}
swing = {
\relative c'' {
\key bes \major
{
\times 2/3 {g8 g g}
% \times 2/3 {(g8 g) g}
\times 2/3 {g8. g8 g16}
% \times 2/3 {[g8 g16]}
\times 2/3 {g4 g8}
r4
}
\break
{
r4 bes2 bes4 bes4. bes8 (bes2)
}
}
}
\score
{
<<
\new Staff {
\swing
}
>>
}
It is impossible to set slurs inside triples. Is a widely used practice
to mark swing rhythm. And I found it impossible to beam an eighth with a
sixteenth note. (it is often used, where the second note. the sixteenth
note does have a short additional (sixteenth) beam - may be my knowledge
of lilypond does not have the necessary depths for such a construct?)
May be you can convince the developers to allow slurs in triplets to
mark the swing rhythm? (I do not try it, because my ideas usually are
disliked.)
BTW I do not think this is a bug, it simply is not implemented. BTW I am
not sure that the bug blog is the correct place for this topic?
Regards BB
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