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   1. Re: Openmoko Bug #1282: Remove rotate display option
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
   2. Re: Openmoko Bug #1267: Strong echo when calling a Neo from
      another   phone (Openmoko Public Trac)
   3. Re: Openmoko Bug #1614: Mediplayer isn't able to play
      Ogg/Vorbis files (Russell Sears)
   4. Openmoko Bug #1620: Show times for SMS (Openmoko Public Trac)
   5. Re: Openmoko Bug #1614: Mediplayer isn't able to play
      Ogg/Vorbis files (Openmoko Public Trac)
   6. Re: Openmoko Bug #1570: dependency problem with ncurses
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
   7. Re: Openmoko Bug #1569: Package ncurses wants to install file
      /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 But that file is already provided by
      package * libncurses5 (Openmoko Public Trac)
   8. Re: Openmoko Bug #1614: Mediplayer isn't able to play
      Ogg/Vorbis files (Openmoko Public Trac)
--- Begin Message ---
#1282: Remove rotate display option
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 Reporter:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]            |        Owner:  erin_yueh  
     Type:  defect                       |       Status:  assigned   
 Priority:  highest                      |    Milestone:             
Component:  Applications & Dependencies  |      Version:  unspecified
 Severity:  normal                       |   Resolution:             
 Keywords:                               |     Blocking:             
Blockedby:                               |  
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Changes (by nomeata):

 * cc: nomeata (added)


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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1282#comment:8>
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--- Begin Message ---
#1267: Strong echo when calling a Neo from another phone
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 Reporter:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |        Owner:  sean_chiang
     Type:  defect             |       Status:  assigned   
 Priority:  high               |    Milestone:             
Component:  Audio              |      Version:  unspecified
 Severity:  normal             |   Resolution:             
 Keywords:  audio, echo        |     Blocking:             
Blockedby:                     |  
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
Changes (by nomeata):

 * cc: nomeata (added)


-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267#comment:7>
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--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message --- I've been looking into this a bit. Some ogg files are playable, depending on encoding. The problem is that the hardware is too slow to play ogg files back with the default configuration. It doesn't have a floating point unit, so things get tricky.

It sounds like pulseaudio shouldn't be using much CPU time at all, at least according to this thread (which referrs to a different device / os):

http://osdir.com/ml/audio.pulseaudio.general/2007-02/msg00010.html

We probably should figure out what pulseaudio is actually doing, then look into making it not do that.

I've been trying to figure out where the gst-plugin-vorbisi file's source code lives for further debugging, but I've been busy and it's been slow going. I've managed to find the source code for gst-plugin-vorbis, but that one uses floating point math, and is slower than the one shipped on the phone.

Beyond fixing the pulseaudio overhead by getting it to stop doing software mixing / resampling / ???, there are some other things that could help:

- tremolo, which is an ARM specific version of tremor. Tremor is the integer math ogg implementation shipped by default

- _LOW_ACCURACY_ mode, which seems to corrupt a few lsbs of the signal, but saves CPU time.

- Double checking compilation options.

-Rusty

Openmoko Public Trac wrote:
#1614: Mediplayer isn't able to play Ogg/Vorbis files
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Reporter: HdR | Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: high | Milestone: Component: unknown | Version: 2007.2 Severity: normal | Keywords: openmoko-mediaplayer Blocking: | Blockedby: ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------
 As the title says, the openmoko-mediaplayer isn't able to play Ogg/Vorbis
 files.
 The files are added corretly to the play list, but if you press play, the
 mediaplayer only plays a short extract of the track (about the first
 second, maybe).

 ogg123 and mplayer are able to play Ogg/vorbis files (with about 50% CPU
 usage), if pulseaudio isn't running.





--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
#1620: Show times for SMS
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 Reporter:  nomeata  |       Owner:  openmoko-devel
     Type:  defect   |      Status:  new           
 Priority:  normal   |   Milestone:                
Component:  unknown  |     Version:  2007.2        
 Severity:  normal   |    Keywords:                
 Blocking:           |   Blockedby:                
---------------------+------------------------------------------------------
 openmoko-messages2 does only display the dates of messages, but not the
 time the message was received (as the dialer does for received or missed
 calls). For me, the time is sometimes important, so I’d like to see it.

 Please add that, or consider adding a gconf variable to enable the time
 display.

-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1620>
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--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
#1614: Mediplayer isn't able to play Ogg/Vorbis files
----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------
 Reporter:  HdR                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
     Type:  defect                |       Status:  new           
 Priority:  high                  |    Milestone:                
Component:  unknown               |      Version:  2007.2        
 Severity:  normal                |   Resolution:                
 Keywords:  openmoko-mediaplayer  |     Blocking:                
Blockedby:                        |  
----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------

Comment(by hedora):

 I've been looking into this a bit, so here are some things I've figured
 out so far:

 Some ogg files are playable, depending on encoding.

 The problem is that the hardware is too slow to play ogg files back with
 the default configuration.  It doesn't have a floating point unit, so
 things get tricky.

 Pulseaudio shouldn't be using much CPU time at all, at least according to
 this thread (which refers to a different device / os):

 http://osdir.com/ml/audio.pulseaudio.general/2007-02/msg00010.html

 We probably should figure out what pulseaudio is actually doing, then look
 into making it simply pass data through.  I suspect its acting as a
 software mixer so that you can change the music volume without changing
 the touchscreen click volume, but need to confirm this.

 I've been trying to figure out where the gst-plugin-vorbisi file's source
 code lives for further debugging, but I've been busy and it's been slow
 going.  I've managed to find the source code for gst-plugin-vorbis, but
 that one uses floating point math, and is slower than the one shipped on
 the phone.

 Beyond fixing the pulseaudio overhead by getting it to stop doing software
 mixing / resampling / ???, there are some other things that could help:

 - Use tremolo, which is an ARM specific version of tremor.  Tremor is the
 integer-math ogg implementation shipped by default

 - _LOW_ACCURACY_ mode, which seems to corrupt a few lsbs of the signal,
 but saves CPU time.

 - Double checking compilation options.

 Also, have you been able to tell if ogg123/mplayer are using libvorbis, or
 libvorbisi?  I've been meaning to check, since if they're using floating
 point emulation, we should have plenty of cycles to spare...

 -Rusty

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1614#comment:1>
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--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
#1570: dependency problem with ncurses
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 Reporter:  calestyo  |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
     Type:  defect    |       Status:  closed        
 Priority:  highest   |    Milestone:                
Component:  unknown   |      Version:                
 Severity:  blocker   |   Resolution:  duplicate     
 Keywords:            |     Blocking:                
Blockedby:            |  
----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------
Changes (by calestyo):

  * priority:  normal => highest
  * status:  new => closed
  * resolution:  => duplicate


Comment:

 Duplicate of #1569.

-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1570#comment:1>
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openmoko trac

--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
#1569: Package ncurses wants to install file /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 But that
file is already provided by package  * libncurses5
--------------------+-------------------------------------------------------
 Reporter:  JJR     |        Owner:  tick   
     Type:  defect  |       Status:  new    
 Priority:  normal  |    Milestone:         
Component:  opkg    |      Version:  GTA02v5
 Severity:  normal  |   Resolution:         
 Keywords:          |     Blocking:         
Blockedby:          |  
--------------------+-------------------------------------------------------

Comment(by Strolls):

 I get this, too.

 Full error:

 {{{
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg upgrade
 Upgrading ncurses on root from 5.4-r14 to 5.4-r15...
 Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-
 feed/armv4t/ncurses_5.4-r15_armv4t.ipk
 Collected errors:
  * Package ncurses wants to install file /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5
         But that file is already provided by package  * libncurses5
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
 }}}

 This is when updating the factory-installed 2007.2 image.

-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1569#comment:2>
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openmoko trac

--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
#1614: Mediplayer isn't able to play Ogg/Vorbis files
----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------
 Reporter:  HdR                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
     Type:  defect                |       Status:  new           
 Priority:  high                  |    Milestone:                
Component:  unknown               |      Version:  2007.2        
 Severity:  normal                |   Resolution:                
 Keywords:  openmoko-mediaplayer  |     Blocking:                
Blockedby:                        |  
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Changes (by calestyo):

 * cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (added)


-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1614#comment:2>
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