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   1. Re: Openmoko Bug #1794: Make Wifi "just work"
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
   2. Re: Openmoko Bug #1794: Make Wifi "just work"
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
   3. Re: Openmoko Bug #1794: Make Wifi "just work"
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
   4. Re: Openmoko Bug #2109: Upgrade path error from Om2008.9 to
      testing (Openmoko Public Trac)
   5. Re: Openmoko Bug #1803: Installer reports all package
      Download size     as 0 bytes (Openmoko Public Trac)
   6. Re: Openmoko Bug #1794: Make Wifi "just work"
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
   7. Re: Openmoko Bug #1794: Make Wifi "just work"
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
--- Begin Message ---
#1794: Make Wifi "just work"
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    Reporter:  Sjors           |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  enhancement     |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  high            |    Milestone:  Om2008.8      
   Component:  unknown         |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  major           |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  wifi usability  |     Haspatch:  0             
   Blockedby:                  |    Estimated:                
 Patchreview:                  |     Blocking:                
Reproducible:                  |  
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Changes (by andy):

  * haspatch:  => 0


Comment:

 No Werner has made some good progress about this recently by transplanting
 the GTA02 Atheros WLAN driver on top of the Linux SDIO stack instead of
 the Atheros special one it was on top of until now.  So it should change
 some longstanding (not the firmware-related ones) issues around WLAN.

 We have the "native" WLAN driver in stable-tracking... part of the feeling
 that we're stuck on GTA03 is that all new work for even GTA01 and
 certainly GTA02 is happening up at stable-tracking.  And stable-tracking
 is not released as the new stable yet due to a couple of remaining issues
 (that I am sat working on now).  Once we clear those a lot of nice things
 (along with breakage no doubt) will suddenly appear in a new stable
 branch.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1794#comment:5>
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--- Begin Message ---
#1794: Make Wifi "just work"
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
    Reporter:  Sjors           |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  enhancement     |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  high            |    Milestone:  Om2008.8      
   Component:  unknown         |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  major           |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  wifi usability  |     Haspatch:  0             
   Blockedby:                  |    Estimated:                
 Patchreview:                  |     Blocking:                
Reproducible:                  |  
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Comment(by werner):

 lindi, thanks for the list ! There are a few I hadn't noticed yet.

 My main focus is currently on getting SDIO interrupt signaling to work
 properly with the Linux SDIO stack. Missed or delayed interrupts could
 explain all sorts of problems. Once this is done, I think we can switch
 stacks, and then I'll get back to chasing those other bugs.

 As far as I know, that switch should eliminate bug #1597.

 queen6, the community progress on the UI side sounds interesting. Has
 this already found its way back into Om2008 (or is it even related) ?
 I've considered the UI as our biggest blocker in the whole WLAN area,
 and wasn't too happy about the apparent absence of progress there. So
 this is good news.

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--- Begin Message ---
#1794: Make Wifi "just work"
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
    Reporter:  Sjors           |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  enhancement     |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  high            |    Milestone:  Om2008.8      
   Component:  unknown         |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  major           |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  wifi usability  |     Haspatch:  0             
   Blockedby:                  |    Estimated:                
 Patchreview:                  |     Blocking:                
Reproducible:                  |  
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------

Comment(by queen6):

 Andy,

 I saw Werner's patches from 3rd of Nov, but there is still a long way to
 go, before this driver is in a good shape.
 As far as I'm aware (and I might be _completely_ wrong here), these
 patches didn't fix any of the problems linked by Lindi.

 The other problem not mentioned here which I found are:

 1) signal strength is very low. When I put Neo one meter from my AP it
 reports ~60% signal strength (where my other devices - 2 laptops and 2
 different Nokia phones N80 and N95) reports 100%. Also Neo detects only 3
 of wireless network in range, where my latops and Nokia phones pick all 8.
 2) wpa_supplicant should scan the all available frequencies (b/g) in
 around ~20-25sec. Using Neo, the driver doesn't report available networks
 in that time and networkmanager often times out (it's waiting ~30 sec for
 wpa_supplicant - which is MORE than enough).
 3) not sure about this one, because I didn't try for a long time - but can
 you use Neo as access point nowadays?


 Thanks for your hard work guys. One day this phone will really rock!
 Rob

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#2109: Upgrade path error from Om2008.9 to testing
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    Reporter:  john_lee   |        Owner:  tick        
        Type:  defect     |       Status:  in_testing  
    Priority:  high       |    Milestone:              
   Component:  Distro     |      Version:  Om2008.9-dev
    Severity:  normal     |   Resolution:              
    Keywords:  Om2008.11  |     Haspatch:  0           
   Blockedby:             |    Estimated:              
 Patchreview:             |     Blocking:              
Reproducible:  always     |  
--------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
Changes (by john_lee):

 * cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (added)
  * status:  accepted => in_testing


Comment:

 please test if there are more issues like this.  if not, please close this
 ticket.

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--- Begin Message ---
#1803: Installer reports all package Download size as 0 bytes
-----------------------------------------------------+----------------------
    Reporter:  peepsalot                             |        Owner:  roh      
        Type:  defect                                |       Status:  assigned 
    Priority:  normal                                |    Milestone:  Om2008.10
   Component:  Distro                                |      Version:  Om2008.8 
    Severity:  normal                                |   Resolution:           
    Keywords:  opkg-util, size, HasPatch, Om2008.11  |     Haspatch:  1        
   Blockedby:                                        |    Estimated:           
 Patchreview:                                        |     Blocking:           
Reproducible:                                        |  
-----------------------------------------------------+----------------------
Changes (by tick):

  * owner:  tick => roh


Comment:

 Hi Roh,
   It's still have this issue in community-repository. Packages in
 Multiverse lacks of packages size.
 Would you please fix this.

 By the way, what's the status of the Multiverse? I heard from Marek that
 you had discussed this with Sean. Would you kindly tell us what's the
 plan?

 Are we not providing Multiverse any more?
 If so, please send a mail out remove all the scheme and remove the
 repository.
 Then we will remove the package that setting Multiverse.


 Regards,
 Tick

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1803#comment:27>
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--- Begin Message ---
#1794: Make Wifi "just work"
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
    Reporter:  Sjors           |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  enhancement     |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  high            |    Milestone:  Om2008.8      
   Component:  unknown         |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  major           |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  wifi usability  |     Haspatch:  0             
   Blockedby:                  |    Estimated:                
 Patchreview:                  |     Blocking:                
Reproducible:                  |  
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------

Comment(by queen6):

 Hi Werner,

 As far as I'm aware they haven't found it's way to OM shipped distros, but
 you can find them in FDOM (and soon Gentoo). There are few interesting
 projects targeting Wifi and some are more successful than the others.

 Personally I'm using NetworkManager and I don't think there is a need to
 reinvent the wheel. Dbus interface and ability to handle most network
 related stuff makes it great tool. With current configuration and VPN
 plugins you can set up network functionality without GUI (like static IP
 for usb-networking), dispatcher scripts allows you to execute custom
 scripts on connection change (like mounting NFS shares when you connect
 Neo to your PC). Well there are tons of other things you can do with it.
 It's great tool and I think we could befit from it.

 Rob

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1794#comment:8>
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--- Begin Message ---
#1794: Make Wifi "just work"
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
    Reporter:  Sjors           |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  enhancement     |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  high            |    Milestone:  Om2008.8      
   Component:  unknown         |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  major           |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  wifi usability  |     Haspatch:  0             
   Blockedby:                  |    Estimated:                
 Patchreview:                  |     Blocking:                
Reproducible:                  |  
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------

Comment(by andy):

 queen6, I just responded to "...from kernel mailing list it seems OM
 kernel people are mostly focused on GTA03 right now."  Generally the
 firmware is a black box to us and I'm not sure actual ar6001 driver part
 is much better.  But about your points:

 1) TX signal strength, possibly this is something that can be set by
 firmware.  There's a decent antenna on the module at least.
 1a) iwlist wlan0 scan results, I believe the firmware is filtering these
 based on beacon quality / consistency, if we had a working monitor mode
 you would probably see hits from all the APs.
 2) Yeah I agree, again firmware is managing that I think we find
 3) No not AFAIK, the firmware doesn't support it but glad to be wrong
 though.

 Overall the comparison to other embedded WLAN device is telling, I notice
 strongly that two of the three areas that cause most pain in GTA02 involve
 closed firmware blobs...

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