https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60946

--- Comment #7 from Philip Prindeville <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to Jacob Champion from comment #6)

> While that might be true -- and I'm not convinced that's an accurate
> description of all MAC systems -- we're not using an ACL (or a MAC)
> authorization system here. It's a very flexible (perhaps too flexible),
> multi-paradigm system, and I would argue that you're just as likely to see
> role-based authz with some of the more advanced authorization modules.

Yes, sorry.  I was thinking specifically of the case where you're controlling
your decision based on IP address, host port, or some derivation of that (like
GeoIP).

> Perhaps the best thing to agree on is that any behavior might be
> "astonishing" to some, and we should try to do what is least astonishing to
> the widest possible range of users.

I can subscribe to that.

> Anyway: there's a good chance that this is neither here nor there. Maybe all
> we need to do is review what directives are considered
> neutral/success/failure in the authz system.

Someone explain to me again what the point of "neutral" is?

I've always thought that success == !failure and vice versa.

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