On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 17:07:59 +0100 Claudio Jeker <clau...@openbsd.org> wrote:
> You changed the FS type from the default used by the installer and > expect us to document for this case? Oh, I see. So, what's next? "You changed mediaopt in hostname.if from default used by the installer and expect us to support it, or to document it once we don't support it anymore?" > You have it reverse. Where in the > documentation does OpenBSD tell you that using a MFS mounted /var is > perfectly OK and will not cause any trouble? More than a decade of using it in such way without any problems whatsoever told me it used to be perfectly OK. Now you are telling me it was undesired feature which has to be taken away? > You ripped off the warranty sticker I have always despised warranty stickers, and they were always first thing to be ripped off my stuff. I am sad to see you, of all people (I have deep respect for your work on OpenBSD) pulling this wording. > by using a non persistent file > system for a partition that includes things like: > backups/ Miscellaneous backup files. > db/ Miscellaneous, automatically generated > system- specific database files. > sysmerge/ Checksum files and reference sets for > sysmerge(8). > syspatch/ Rollback tarballs > and patch files for syspatch(8). I have enough understanding of administering OpenBSD to know the importance of those partitions. I also know how and when to sync them to persistent storage, and to pull them out of there while mounting them as mfs's. > It should be fairly clear that these directories should not sit on a > file system that loses all changes on reboot or powerloss. It is crystal clear to me what happens to these directories on reboot or powerloss, mfs or ufs or nfs or a few other fs's. Does OpenBSD nowadays optimise for lowest common denominator? > Guess it has to be done to protect us from people like you. Right, "you're with us or you're against us". I almost feel honoured to hear "people like me" are a threat to "you", against which protective measures need to be taken. Anyway, for those who still need to syspatch their mfs'd setups, I've updated my article with workaround description, and whole install procedure and patching procedure will be ready by the end of next week. People interested in this thread probably know where to find it. -- Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water. After enlightenment - chop wood, draw water. Marko Cupać https://www.mimar.rs/
